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« on: May 29, 2007, 10:00:02 pm » |
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Arctic_White
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2007, 02:21:25 am » |
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It'd be my very first choice if only it came in 4-doors (CSX-S is too expensive).
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2007, 05:44:48 am » |
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It is disappointing to read what amounts to a puff piece disguised as an impartial review. To state that the only criticism is that the hatchback models are not available here leads the reader to conclude that Honda has made the perfect car. Clearly that is not so given past criticisms elsewhere of the dash design, the peaky engine, etc. C'mon, CD, you can (and should) do better than this. |
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2007, 05:53:55 am » |
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It's cute, very good and frugal. The interior is not for me, I've driven it many times and the dash design is annoying and seating too low for an old guy like me. The ride is quite harsh and with quite a bit of road noise. It will be a popular used car down the road for those kids that don't know how to wear a cap properly and jeans at their knees  Older folks will prefer the new Sentra and Elantra which are far more pleasurable to drive. |
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2007, 07:45:13 am » |
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I agree this reads like a puff piece. One problem with current Civics is the poor visibility. Lest I sound like cranky O.F. (old gaseous emission from the nether regions), let me hasten to add that I loved my '89 Honda CRX, bought new. Now there was a car that looked great from the outside - without compromising the view from the inside. All other aspects - handling, acceleration, fuel economy, luggage space (for a small car) were also great.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2007, 07:59:54 am » |
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I'm just wondering - is it me, or does it seem that cars being compared now are different yet the same?
What I mean to say is that people (car magazines) are comparing a 4 door GTI to a 2 door coupe SI? Or the Mini Cooper S to the Sentra SE-R (see R&T this month). Or the Volvo C-30 to the Rabbit because they both have a 5 cyl?
If I can haul 5 people in (relative) comfort with the convenience of a hatch - GTI.
If I want reliability, with an engine that I have to dump the clutch at 3,000+ RPM to haul, SI.
If I want both, Mazdaspeed 3....reliability, 260+ hp, and I can get a foursome to "Golf" with their clubs.
Sorry 'bout the VW pun, there - couldn't help it!
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2007, 08:08:27 am » |
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I see Honda cuts corners too - from the trunk lid picture I see it's not lined; just pure steel.... cheap. And for a sporty model, top of the line .... they didn't even put the fog lights in instead of those ugly plastic covers in the front bumper. Much nicer than the sedan, great pretty much everything, but boy....the dash is fugly... I cannot imgine how it would be to look at it every day....  |
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« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2007, 08:53:24 am » |
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I m looking for a 4 door used Civic Si sedan in a couple of years, too bad that they do not offer the sedan version in Canada, CSX Type S is too expensive and even for a used one few years down the road because of the limited supply.
My solution will be once Canadian dollar hits $1 to US Dollar I will go the US and get a used Civic Si sedan and import it back to canada.
If you go yahoo.com and check for 2007 used Civic Si sedan in the States, there quite a few of them and some asking for less than $19000 US, thats a sweet deal compare to $34000 for a CSX type S. I hate leather interior and I can drive without the HID and Navigation.
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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2007, 09:10:17 am » |
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Nice as the Civic Si might be, I find close ratio geared cars a pain to drive. I test drove an Acura CSX Type S, and I couldn't believe how quickly I had to keep upshifting and downshifting just to keep the engine in the appropriate power band.
Give me a wide ratio manual transmission any day. |
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« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2007, 12:57:45 pm » |
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8 continuous posts related to the topic at hand with no mindless drivel from the regular trolls    Congrats gentlemen and thanks for the informative dialogue! |
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« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2007, 01:31:01 pm » |
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8 continuous posts related to the topic at hand with no mindless drivel from the regular trolls Congrats gentlemen and thanks for the informative dialogue! I guess you screwed it up by not writing about SI, so you must be troll  |
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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2007, 02:50:14 pm » |
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8 continuous posts related to the topic at hand with no mindless drivel from the regular trolls Congrats gentlemen and thanks for the informative dialogue! I guess you screwed it up by not writing about SI, so you must be troll I did not post anything relating to the Si as I had nothing to add because I do not own one nor had the pleasure of driving one. I was just happy to read the comments without filtering out the usual junk people post. Then I commented on how much I enjoyed the posts. Perhaps positive comments are not viewed as being “good”. I will not post in this thread anymore. |
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« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2007, 02:52:53 pm » |
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Have fun...relax.
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« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2007, 10:17:01 pm » |
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It'd be my very first choice if only it came in 4-doors (CSX-S is too expensive). How about importing a 2007 Civic Si sedan from the States? |
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2007, 12:06:44 am » |
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It is disappointing to read what amounts to a puff piece disguised as an impartial review. To state that the only criticism is that the hatchback models are not available here leads the reader to conclude that Honda has made the perfect car. Clearly that is not so given past criticisms elsewhere of the dash design, the peaky engine, etc. C'mon, CD, you can (and should) do better than this.
 It's an opinion piece. Believe it or not, some people like the dash design and the peaky engine. As for the Si - I love it. I'm not sure it's better than the VW GTI, but it's very, very good. I would have liked to see it be smaller and lighter, though - it feels like a big car. The 2002 SiR feels a lot smaller, which I liked. |
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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2007, 04:43:59 am » |
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It'd be my very first choice if only it came in 4-doors (CSX-S is too expensive). How about importing a 2007 Civic Si sedan from the States? I'll certainly consider it when the right time comes around. Thanks for the suggestion, my friendly neighbour down South.  |
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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2007, 04:44:32 pm » |
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It is disappointing to read what amounts to a puff piece disguised as an impartial review. To state that the only criticism is that the hatchback models are not available here leads the reader to conclude that Honda has made the perfect car. Clearly that is not so given past criticisms elsewhere of the dash design, the peaky engine, etc. C'mon, CD, you can (and should) do better than this.
It's an opinion piece. Believe it or not, some people like the dash design and the peaky engine. As for the Si - I love it. I'm not sure it's better than the VW GTI, but it's very, very good. I would have liked to see it be smaller and lighter, though - it feels like a big car. The 2002 SiR feels a lot smaller, which I liked.  As you've stated, Demo, simply because a writer (writing an opinion piece, no less), actually respects and enjoys a car, it does not necessarily become a "puff piece". Wonder of wonders, some people really like a close-ratio 6-speed to row through (I know I do) especially when the clutch / gearbox set up are as fantastic to use as they are in the Si / RSX-S. That 'peaky' engine is exciting, free-revving and fun to me. And like others, I don't mind the interesting dash layout. |
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2007, 08:59:14 pm » |
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If the civic didn't have a close ratio gearbox you would always be in first gear to get the torque out to th wheels. High revving Honda engines really don't have much of a choice but to be coupled with short ratio gear boxes. |
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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2007, 10:22:57 pm » |
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Since wing is talking about the narrow power band of the honda engine, it made me think of the article about the Ariel Atom. They replaced the honda engine with a Chevy 4 banger assembled in Germany. Further in the article it talks about the current engine having a wide power band... Just for you barrie... |
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« Reply #19 on: June 02, 2007, 04:58:12 pm » |
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It is disappointing to read what amounts to a puff piece disguised as an impartial review. To state that the only criticism is that the hatchback models are not available here leads the reader to conclude that Honda has made the perfect car. Clearly that is not so given past criticisms elsewhere of the dash design, the peaky engine, etc. C'mon, CD, you can (and should) do better than this.
It's an opinion piece. Believe it or not, some people like the dash design and the peaky engine. As you've stated, Demo, simply because a writer (writing an opinion piece, no less), actually respects and enjoys a car, it does not necessarily become a "puff piece". Wonder of wonders, some people really like a close-ratio 6-speed to row through (I know I do) especially when the clutch / gearbox set up are as fantastic to use as they are in the Si / RSX-S. That 'peaky' engine is exciting, free-revving and fun to me. And like others, I don't mind the interesting dash layout. I disagree. It is not titled as an opinion piece, it is titled as a test drive. I hear those words and I think of something unbiased and impartial. If CD wants to start running opinion pieces then they should use that title. |
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