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Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« on: May 21, 2007, 10:31:35 am »
Interesting concept.  Range limited to the size (and weight?) of your air tank.

http://www.businessweek.com/autos/content/mar2007/bw20070319_949435.htm?chan=autos_autos+index+page_technology+span+style=%22font-family:arial;%22+/span+cars



The Air Car

The fiberglass MiniC.A.T. runs on compressed air, and offers zero pollution and very low running costs

Many respected engineers have been trying for years to bring a compressed air car to market, believing strongly that compressed air can power a viable "zero pollution" car. Now the first commercial compressed air car is on the verge of production and beginning to attract a lot of attention, and with a recently signed partnership with Tata, India's largest automotive manufacturer, the prospects of very cost-effective mass production are now a distinct possibility. The MiniC.A.T is a simple, light urban car, with a tubular chassis that is glued not welded and a body of fibreglass. The heart of the electronic and communication system on the car is a computer offering an array of information reports that extends well beyond the speed of the vehicle, and is built to integrate with external systems and almost anything you could dream of, starting with voice recognition, internet connectivity, GSM telephone connectivity, a GPS guidance system, fleet management systems, emergency systems, and of course every form of digital entertainment. The engine is fascinating, as is and the revolutionary electrical system that uses just one cable and so is the vehicle's wireless control system. Microcontrollers are used in every device in the car, so one tiny radio transmitter sends instructions to the lights, indicators etc

There are no keys – just an access card which can be read by the car from your pocket.

Most importantly, it is incredibly cost-efficient to run – according to the designers, it costs less than one Euro per 100Km (about a tenth that of a petrol car). Its mileage is about double that of the most advanced electric car (200 to 300 km or 10 hours of driving), a factor which makes a perfect choice in cities where the 80% of motorists drive at less than 60Km. The car has a top speed of 68 mph.

Refilling the car will, once the market develops, take place at adapted petrol stations to administer compressed air. In two or three minutes, and at a cost of approximately 1.5 Euros, the car will be ready to go another 200-300 kilometres.

As a viable alternative, the car carries a small compressor which can be connected to the mains (220V or 380V) and refill the tank in 3-4 hours.

Due to the absence of combustion and, consequently, of residues, changing the oil (1 litre of vegetable oil) is necessary only every 50,000 Km.

The temperature of the clean air expelled by the exhaust pipe is between 0 - 15 degrees below zero, which makes it suitable for use by the internal air conditioning system with no need for gases or loss of power.

How does it work?

90m3 of compressed air is stored in fibre tanks. The expansion of this air pushes the pistons and creates movement. The atmospheric temperature is used to re-heat the engine and increase the road coverage. The air conditioning system makes use of the expelled cold air. Due to the absence of combustion and the fact there is no pollution, the oil change is only necessary every 31.000 miles.

At the moment, four models have been made: a car, a taxi (5 passengers), a Pick-Up truck and a van. The final selling price will be approximately 5.500 pounds.

The Company

"Moteur Development International" (MDI) is a company founded in Luxembourg, based in the south of France and with its Commercial Office in Barcelona. MDI has researched and developed the Air Car over 10 years and the technology is protected by more than 30 International patents and MDI is actively seeking licensees, with according to the company, 50 factories in Europe, America and Asia signed already.

The Factory

It is predicted that the factory will produce 3.000 cars each year, with 70 staff working only one 8-hour shift a day. If there were 3 shifts some 9.000 cars could be produced a year.

The Tata Agreement

Tata Motors is India's largest automobile company, with revenues of US$ 5.5 billion in 2005-06. With over 4 million Tata vehicles on Indian roads, it is the leader in commercial vehicles and the second largest in passenger vehicles. It is also the world's fifth largest medium and heavy truck manufacturer and the second largest heavy bus manufacturer.

Tata has signed an agreement with MDI for application in India of MDI's engine technology, and believes the engine is viable – it's press statement described it as "efficient, cost-effective, scalable, and capable of other applications such as power generation".

The agreement between Tata Motors and MDI envisages Tata's supporting further development and refinement of the technology, and its application and licensing for India.

MDI is a small, family-controlled company located at Carros, near Nice (Southern France) where Guy and Cyril Negre and their technical team have developed the engine technology and the technologically advanced car it powers.

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2007, 10:37:01 am »
Interesting concept, but what I really like is the styling...... :hurl: :hurl:
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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2007, 10:43:05 am »
OK, NOT the most aesthetically pleasing vehicle out there, but I like the concept - a lot!  :thumbup: :thumbup: Does that make me an "airhead"??  ??? ;D
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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2007, 10:43:20 am »
Interesting.  It's not emissions free of course as you have to expend energy somewhere to compress the air.  However, I suspect the energy expenditure might be far less than all the energy used to create the gasoline that we buy and burn.

Good to see concepts like this coming on...
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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2007, 10:46:22 am »
Interesting.  It's not emissions free of course as you have to expend energy somewhere to compress the air.  However, I suspect the energy expenditure might be far less than all the energy used to create the gasoline that we buy and burn.

Good to see concepts like this coming on...

Agreed, but mass production of electricity tends to be cleaner than individual production by means of a gasoline-powered generator.  ;)

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2007, 01:03:41 pm »
OK, AC is covered, what about heat? Back to the gas heaters of old VW bugs?

Still it sounds like a great concept!

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2007, 01:08:11 pm »
Interesting.  It's not emissions free of course as you have to expend energy somewhere to compress the air.  However, I suspect the energy expenditure might be far less than all the energy used to create the gasoline that we buy and burn.

Good to see concepts like this coming on...

Agreed, but mass production of electricity tends to be cleaner than individual production by means of a gasoline-powered generator.  ;)

I can't post any proof at the moment, but IIRC I read somewhere that one of the greatest contributors to greenhouse gases is the production of electricity, particularily since most electrical production involves the burning of fossil fuels. Not in BC or Que where hydro is a big electricity producer, but elsewhere coal, natural gas are the main sources for generation of power.

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2007, 01:15:05 pm »
Not to mention nuclear power...

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2007, 01:45:57 pm »
Nukes don't produce greenhouse gasses.

What I would like to know is how the total emissions stream of the air powered vehicle compares to the total stream of a gasoline powered vehicle.  According to the article, it should cost 10% per km to operate, so I suspect that the total energy expended and emissions must be much lower, or the cost of compressing the air would be much higher.  No one is giving kilowatt/hours away.

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2007, 01:49:10 pm »
However, if we all began to drive compressed air cars, then the load on the generators might increase drastically, increasing the need for electrical infrastructure and capacity.

Heating sounds like it might be an issue, as the waste product is cold air.  Not sure if I want my car pumping -15C air into the cabin as I commute in January!

However, for nations like India with massive populations, this type of vehicle might be an amazing solution to cutting greehouse gas emissions.

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2007, 01:53:53 pm »
However, for nations like India with massive populations,

not to mention very warm climate.

One of the downsides of massive air conditioner use in places like India, China, or anywhere with lots of small individual ACs and high temps, is that the street temperature goes through the roof with all the hot air exhaust. Bleh.
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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2007, 02:05:57 pm »
Not to mention nuclear power...

Nuclear power plants don't produce greenhouse gasses, and in fact are very clean power producers.  If it weren't for the radioactive waste they leave behind, and the small but present threat of meltdown, they'd be everywhere.

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2007, 02:53:14 pm »
Please, someone enlighten me, do they really need to make the car look that ugly???

The concept is interesting tho. Using the exhaust gases on the AC and the cost of the "refueling" being at that rate, I could see a bright future for this one.
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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2007, 03:15:10 pm »
I can't post any proof at the moment, but IIRC I read somewhere that one of the greatest contributors to greenhouse gases is the production of electricity, particularily since most electrical production involves the burning of fossil fuels. Not in BC or Que where hydro is a big electricity producer, but elsewhere coal, natural gas are the main sources for generation of power.

That may well be true, but look at how much electricity is used for compared to gasoline. We heat & cool buildings, heat water, and provide light with electricity just for starters. Add running computers and power tools, the heavy use in manufacturing, etc. and I'll still stand by my point.  ;)

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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2007, 07:20:01 pm »
There is the manual no electricity way of filling your air tank. 


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Re: Beat the high cost of gas, use AIR!
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2007, 08:10:53 pm »
 ??? :rofl2: :rofl2: Mining uses compressed air and it is expensive to build installations and operate using electrical power to generate.

Building pipelines to connect distribution centres would be impossible along with building individual compressors at each retail outlet.

Who are the idiots who think this stuff up? :rofl2: