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Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« on: April 01, 2007, 01:42:27 pm »
Well...I just got back from Accelerated Performance in Ohio.  Accelerated is a specialty Supra shop.  It's an interesting place.  The guys that own it are rather young (late 20's, early 30's).  They have many friends.  People were just coming around to hang out while they were working on the cars...almost like a revolving door.  Some just popped in for a quick hello, others hing around for hours.  Joking around, having fun.  The way it should be when you work on cars!  A cool atmosphere.  While there, they had a 1200HP street Supra in the shop.  Yes...1200HP.  :o  The turbo on that thing was the size of my friggen' head!! (Which some people may claim is rather HUGE!!  But that's another topic...)  The inlet from the air filter to the turbo was nearly 8" across!!  They went on to tell me the kid that owns it spends nearly $20,000 per year just to drive it around and maintain it!  $26 gallon for fuel.  The clutch cost is $6,000..and may go through a couple per year.  Truly, when you make big, stupid power, you have to have a big, stupid bank account.  Or own the bank.  I also saw a Firehawk with a 407 stroker in it with a Supercharger.  The car was brought in because it was running like crap.  They also had a few Talons there.

So on to my car.  :)  I did get compliments from them, which is really nice since they see so many Supras.  They said mine was among the cleanest underneath they had ever seen.  They also noted that my rear main seal wasn't leaking which is somewhat common for higher mileage Supras.  I guess the 1 year time I spent looking for my car paid off.  They also liked my gauge bezels.  The 1st mod we did was a relatively new one in the Supra community.  So new, that they hadn't done one yet.  The idea is to add a seperate boost controller for turbo #1.   This helps to smooth the transition (and add more boost and HP!) from turbo #1 to turbo #2.   Up until very recently, turbo #1 had to be left as is, since there are so many actuators, ECUs and lines that control it.  Some big-brain guy named Stu Hagen figured out a way to control #1 while keeping all of the actuators and sensors functional.  So for most people like me who run 16-18 pounds of boost on #2, the transition from turbo 1 hits hard since it boosts at only 9 pounds.  So you go from 9 pounds to 18 very suddenly.  It doesn't hurt anything, but the hit isn't smooth and is very hard.  So adding a controller to #1 and setting it at 15 pounds smooths the transition considerably while making more power.  A much nicer power curve, and much nicer around town.  A great, cheap mod.  My cost was only a boost controller (Hallman Pro RX with ceramic ball bearing) and their time routing the lines.

The next was my torque converter.  It's amazing that they had the converter out, back in and bolted up in about 2 hours!!  Fluid was swapped out for Amsoil too.  The car is a bit lazier when you are just rolling on the gas from a dead stop.  But when you nail it, the power is crazy-explosive!  The stock converter was only 2300rpms...this one is 3200 or so.  The transition from Turbo#1 to Turbo#2 occurs at 3800 RPM..so you can see how great this mod was.  My converter is from Precision Industries.

Next were my shocks and springs.  I changed my mind, and decided to stay with the stock Toyota shocks, since they do a fine job.  I did switch to Swift Japan springs though, and the drop in the front was 30mm and the back 20mm.  Swift is one of the highest rated spring/shock makers in Japan.  But no one has really heard of them over here yet.  What's REALLY nice about their springs is they manufacture the street springs to work with the stock stroke of the factory shocks.  That's why the drops on my car were only minimal.  It rides every bit as smooth as before, which I was glad to have!  I don't really care for a ride quality that reminds me of a lumber wagon.  But this mod did create a problem.  My massive 315 series tires hit the fender on big bumps or aggressive cornering.  So I have 2 options here.  Option number one I do this week.  Roll the fenders.  Option 2 is an emergency option.   Since my wheels are 3 piece, I can order a new front lip shell for the wheel at a cost of $125 USD per wheel.  This will take my rim from a 11.5" wide to 11" wide.   I think I can get away with just the fender roll.

And last I flushed my braking system and replaced the fluid with ATE Super Blue.  This is a premium fluid with an very high boil point.  What's nice is it's compatible with DOT3 and DOT4 and outperforms them both.  What's even nicer is it only requires a change interval of 3 years vs. 1 year for other hi-perf stuff.  Made in Germany, this stuff is very popular with guys that race or Auto-X their cars and drive them on the streets.  Dry boiling point 536 deg. F, wet boiling point 396 deg. F  Good stuff!

So that was my weekend adventure.
How fast is my Supra?  I sh*t on Cessnas from a roll....

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2007, 02:14:03 pm »
Sounds great! Good read.  How much HP do you think you are putting down?  Sounds like a great shop with people who have experience (Even if they're young) and love their job. 

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2007, 02:21:34 pm »
Rrocket how much do each of us have to CHIP_IN ta replace U with the REAL SUPRA FANATIC????? ;) :stick: :banana: :bang: >:D...$26 bucks a gallon...Snowy Got his wish :rofl2:
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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2007, 03:30:09 pm »
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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2007, 03:55:36 pm »
I'm still be putting down between 375-400 RWHP (I've dynoed the car several times, 375RWHP on 16 lbs. and 403 RWHP with 18lbs both on pump fuel with my street set-up (450+RWHP with the track set-up), but now I have about 40 more HP down low with the turbo #1 mod. 

As far as pics...there's not much to see.  I can take a pic of the boost controller and my brake reservoir if you want.  Springs you can't see from the pics, and the drop is so slight, you can hardly tell...

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2007, 03:58:14 pm »
You planning on tracking using that fancy fluid?  I ran all day at the track with Dot 3, no problems :)


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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2007, 04:03:47 pm »
You planning on tracking using that fancy fluid?  I ran all day at the track with Dot 3, no problems :)

No plan on tracking on a regular basis....a parking lot Auto-X here and there, maybe a track day.  But for the cost ($12.99 a Litre) why wouldn't I use this stuff?  I suspect it would be even better for you..

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2007, 04:13:32 pm »
Yeah I changed my brake fluid last summer $3 a bottle for Dot 3 stuff haha.  I will probably upgrade it but after running 2 hours no problem on the track I am not in a rush to do it, the car is light enough I guess it isn't needed.

Auto-X for sure does not require it.

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2007, 04:19:22 pm »
Yeah I changed my brake fluid last summer $3 a bottle for Dot 3 stuff haha.  I will probably upgrade it but after running 2 hours no problem on the track I am not in a rush to do it, the car is light enough I guess it isn't needed.

Auto-X for sure does not require it.

Yea..Supra is 3550 lbs....no a horrible pig..but no featherweight either..

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2007, 09:32:39 pm »
3550lbs is not all that bad at all for a vehicles weight. I will be doing the Dyno hopefully in the next few months as well but with new Roller rockers and a new 750 carb as well. I'll have to research the jets to use for a proper launch and better fuel milage as well. The truck weighs around 3900lbs wet but is light in the rearend and likes to break traction quite easily.  :)

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2007, 09:35:30 pm »
3550lbs is oink oink ;)

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2007, 04:28:35 am »
3550lbs is oink oink ;)

Yea, which makes it even more exceptional since it was able to put up better numbers for braking, slalom and skidpad than an S2000 despite a 640 lb weight penalty  ;D  Oh..and I made an error, the Supra "only" weighs 3476 lbs (1580 kilos)...LOL

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2007, 07:56:10 am »
Also 2x the price ;)

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2007, 01:18:16 pm »
which little PIGGY is still in MARKET!!!????

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2007, 01:28:29 pm »
Also 2x the price ;)

Hmmm.  Possibly.  I do like the S2000 very much, and it's on my list of cars to own someday.  I'm astounded by how cheaply you can get a 2004-2005 for in the US.  $22-$25K.  It's an enormous bargain IMO...

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2007, 06:59:15 pm »
I saw a white Supra yesterday....while I can appreciate the performance of the vehicle, I can't think that I just can't like the way it looks. 

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2007, 07:24:27 pm »
No worries...that why we each drive what we like!!
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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2007, 08:51:58 pm »
No worries...that why we each drive what we like!!

You've done a great job with your Supra....and I do like aspects of the design....it's just the overall look isn't there for me.  But it's a great engineering design.

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2007, 08:56:44 pm »
No worries...that why we each drive what we like!!

You've done a great job with your Supra....and I do like aspects of the design....it's just the overall look isn't there for me.  But it's a great engineering design.

One tromp on the throttle and everything else is insignificant….wish I would have had more dry pavement tho.  :D

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Re: Supra Back from Weekend of Mods...
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2007, 11:08:39 pm »
No worries...that why we each drive what we like!!

You've done a great job with your Supra....and I do like aspects of the design....it's just the overall look isn't there for me.  But it's a great engineering design.

One tromp on the throttle and everything else is insignificant….wish I would have had more dry pavement tho.  :D

Yea..you weren't complaining at the time!! LOL...I think you were impressed by how well the traction control works.....relatively seamless...