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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2007, 03:18:59 pm » |
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I kinda like that thing. Apparently its pretty decent off road too. Why did they make the Compass again? 
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2007, 04:50:57 pm » |
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Better test its off-road abilities Mr. Wing to see if it is a contender or pretender  The Nitro is just a Jeep Liberty with a longer cargo area and different bodywork. The Liberty may not be a Wrangler, but my understanding is that it's perfectly capable off-road. |
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2007, 05:48:02 pm » |
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Better test its off-road abilities Mr. Wing to see if it is a contender or pretender The Nitro is just a Jeep Liberty with a longer cargo area and different bodywork. The Liberty may not be a Wrangler, but my understanding is that it's perfectly capable off-road. The Liberty is Trail Rated, so no question about its abilities. Just wonder how the Nitro would compare. |
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2007, 08:46:16 pm » |
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The Liberty is Trail Rated, so no question about its abilities. Just wonder how the Nitro would compare.
The Liberty 4x4 has 9.2 inches of ground clearance, has a 35 degree angle of approach, and a 31 degree angle of departure. It has a "short and long arm" front suspension, and a live axle in the rear. The Nitro 4x4 has  inches of ground clearance (they haven't published it for some reason), has a 26 degree angle of approach, and a 27 degree angle of departure. It has a double wishbone front suspension, and a live axle in the rear. The Nitro also has lower-profile tires than the Liberty. So while the Nitro still has as much off-road ability as most people ever need, and is a step up from your typical crossover "cute ute," it's a step down from the Liberty when it comes to true rock-scrabling. |
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2007, 09:24:55 pm » |
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I want to hear what happens on Day 3 when James' neighbour asks him for a battery boost...  As far as specs go... I'm a little surprised that it doesn't come with cruise as standard. That is just odd to me. |
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« Reply #25 on: March 13, 2007, 10:03:48 pm » |
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I am curious how the Nitro drives versus the Liberty. The Nitro has IRS, whereas the Lib does not.
The Liberty is Trail Rated, so no question about its abilities. Just wonder how the Nitro would compare.
The Liberty 4x4 has 9.2 inches of ground clearance, has a 35 degree angle of approach, and a 31 degree angle of departure. It has a "short and long arm" front suspension, and a live axle in the rear. The Nitro 4x4 has inches of ground clearance (they haven't published it for some reason), has a 26 degree angle of approach, and a 27 degree angle of departure. It has a double wishbone front suspension, and a live axle in the rear. The Nitro also has lower-profile tires than the Liberty. So while the Nitro still has as much off-road ability as most people ever need, and is a step up from your typical crossover "cute ute," it's a step down from the Liberty when it comes to true rock-scrabling. Uh, which is it? |
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« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2007, 12:56:53 am » |
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Ya, even on the Caliber you have to buy "speed control" as an option, $250 I think.
What genius in packaging came up with this.. but toss in illuminated cup holders. ? |
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« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2007, 01:18:26 am » |
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Ya, even on the Caliber you have to buy "speed control" as an option, $250 I think.
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« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2007, 08:37:56 am » |
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I thought I had read/heard that it has IRS a few months back. In fact, I must have heard 'five link rear suspension' and thought IRS. The Liberty uses leaf springs in the back.  |
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« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2007, 09:11:18 am » |
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This is just another cartoonish Chryco product destined to sell well intially and then age terribly. |
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« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2007, 10:56:28 am » |
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« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2007, 11:11:40 am » |
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Noticed the scoops in the headliner for occupant's heads. Are they required, or just add that extra bit? |
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« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2007, 11:41:09 am » |
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Always thought it tacky to add those oversized wheel flairs...looks like an aftermarket patch-job.
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« Reply #34 on: March 14, 2007, 12:27:32 pm » |
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I thought I had read/heard that it has IRS a few months back. In fact, I must have heard 'five link rear suspension' and thought IRS. The Liberty uses leaf springs in the back. Nope, coils out back too: from http://trucks.about.com/library/bl/bl_05jeepliberty.htmSUSPENSION
Front: Upper and lower A-arms, coil springs, gas-charged shock absorbers, stabilizer bar
Rear: Live axle, trailing upper A-arm, dual trailing lower arms, coil springs gas-charged shock absorbers and stabilizer barAnd the Nitro: from http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/dodge/nitro.htmlDodge Nitro suspension
The Dodge Nitro features an independent front suspension and an five-link rear suspension, neither of which was carried over from the Liberty. The independent front suspension gives the driver an optimum combination of ride, handling and steering, providing a greater sense of control and precision. The solid five-link rear suspension, including upper and lower trailing links and track bar, provides higher lateral stiffness for vehicle responsiveness and outstanding handling. Ample suspension wheel travel is provided to maintain consistent ride quality, especially when the vehicle is loaded or towing a trailer. So the Nitro may be based on the Liberty but seems to have been "cute uted", sort of. |
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« Reply #35 on: March 14, 2007, 12:33:43 pm » |
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« Reply #36 on: March 14, 2007, 12:39:23 pm » |
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D'oh.  Its OK, I know how you feel. The only way I knew was that I looked hard and long at the Liberty before buying the Pathfinder and knew it had coils all around. And I still want to see the Nitro doing its stuff off-road. Based on what I have seen, it seems to be an odd duck, more than a CUV but less than a good off-road SUV like the Liberty but with that vehicle's class poor fuel economy and ride. Not sure where it fits |
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« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2007, 07:44:32 am » |
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Not sure where it fits Right there, behind the huge stack of incentives  It shows that this thing's design intent is what we have with the R/T trim level. The base trucks look funny with all the black plastic trim and smaller wheels. James' test Nitro is black, so the bare plastic shows less. I guess the Nitro's mission in life is combining SUV looks, small CUV pricing and better-than-CUV towing ability (the relatively small Liberty will pull 5000 lbs, Nitro probably similar). |
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« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2007, 09:54:03 am » |
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This is just another cartoonish Chryco product destined to sell well intially and then age terribly.
Let's hope. When I see the "out of touch with reality" vehicles that Ford and Chrysler are coming out with (from a fuel mileage point of view), it doesn't make me feel bad about watching them both circle the drain. The world does not need more gas guzzling boxes on wheels that drive like wagons and handle like crap. |
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« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2007, 02:22:57 pm » |
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