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Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« on: February 14, 2007, 11:15:24 pm »
Hello,

I have 2 questions about TPMS in 2007 Toyota Sienna which I will be picking up tonight.

1. I plan to buy a second set of rims for winter tires. If I mount them on the van, would that cause the TPMS warning light to come on since the second set of rims will not have the TPMS sensors on them? Would it be a problem if the warning light is on all the time?

2. If I decide to change the tires only and keep the Toyota rims that the van came with, I will go to a reputable tire store. I am  just afraid that the TPMS sensors may get damaged or something while new tires are mounted on. Am I way too concerned here? Has anyone had any experince with it? 

This is a link that I found that seems to show where the TPMS sensors are located in a Sienne.

http://www.siennaclub.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5369

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007, 11:17:13 pm »
Buy the sensors for the second set.  I didn't and regret it.  My winters are on the car now and the dash light is on.  No biggie as I check the pressure regularly, but it's annoying. 

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 11:23:19 pm »
Thanks MdX5.

How much would the sensors cost?
And, are the tire shop people trained to handle TPMS? I may just be too paranoid because it's a new van.  :-[

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 11:42:25 pm »
The shop I deal with is equipped.  I would expect most tire shops have seen and experiened them by now.  Cost...depends.

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2007, 10:21:00 am »
IMHO Tyre sensors are a waste of time,money and evertime ya do a tyre swap odds are some hi skool rookie is gonna bust 'em........MY $200 dollars worth down the drain.... :-\
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2007, 10:24:44 am »
IMHO Tyre sensors are a waste of time,money and evertime ya do a tyre swap odds are some hi skool rookie is gonna bust 'em........MY $200 dollars worth down the drain.... :-\

Not if they're mounted on both sets of rims.  If you have to take the tire off the rim, yeah, chances are they'll be busted.

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2007, 11:00:44 am »
Our shop is equipped, they told me the average price of the sensors was $65.  But the training and equipment required is quite expensive so they have to charge quite a bit more for a simple tire repair.

That being said, any tire monitoring system is great I think.  As I posted awhile back, our 04 Sienna had the light go on for my wife at 110 kph.  It saved at the least a totally destroyed tire and at worst a serious accident.  And that was with the ABS sensor monitoring type, not the in-wheel sensor.  Considering how many flats I have had I wish the Pathy had it   ;D
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2007, 11:11:17 pm »
If you have a spare tire and the tires are not run flat you can run without the sensors. The light will be on, but it is not a safety issue. TPM sensors are very fragile and easy to break. Many tire installers will send you back to the dealer, but there are also many that are equipped to handle this new technology. Make sure they have proper testing equipment to ensure the sensors are working before and after the work is complete. Ensure that whoever works on the sensor always replaces the rubber O-Ring. If not replaced will lead to leaks and tire failure.

You will be charged more, not only due to the extra equipment required to work on the sensor equipped wheels, but also because it does take more time. Time is money. Whenever work is done on the tires the system must be reset and this can be tricky.

The sensors are not legislated in Canada as in the US, but we are seeing more and more vehicles equipped with sensors. So, be prepared to deal with it if you are looking at buying a new vehicle. Sensor pricing varies dramatically. OE sensors typically cost between the $100 to $200 and aftermarket $75 to $125.

If a vehicle has a sensor system and runflat tires you need to have the sensor system functioning. This is purely for safety reasons. It is also illegal to remove sensors from original euipment wheels. It is ok to run without sensors on aftermarket, but with OE it is a no, no!

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2007, 06:59:03 am »
I understand why aftermarket sensors, those that are strapped to the inside of the rim would be a potential probelm for a tire shop and would be fragile  but I would hope that oEM ones would be mounted in a hole drilled into the rim between "spokes and then not protrude into the tire cavity at all.    Cheapness I suppose.
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2007, 12:34:11 pm »
I remember the olde bias ply tyres blowing out fequently...esp when I had to buy re_treads or scrap yard half worns when I woz a poor "stupid"......wasn't hard to control the car to the roadside....

  But nowadays with steel /teflon/krptonite belted radials a FULL BLOODED BLOW OUT is frikkin' RARE...so to mandate $200 dollar sensors (is THAT EACH!!!) on MILLIONS of cars
seems excessive NANNY STATE IMHO......and all the extra expenses Morty has listed
 not Value for $$$'s spent

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2007, 03:49:13 pm »
Saf, i think in common with a lot of these NTHSA/EPA regs the gov does not specify how it is to be done , like with $200 sensors, but what is to be done and that is to inform drivers if a tire pressure deviates from the expected value.  Hence why some mfrs are not using any special sensors but are using the ABS to detect if a wheel appears to be rotating faster than the others.


Funny that... when I was poor and bought junkyard tires ( 4 practicaly new ( looking) Michelin X 5.20*13 for my sprite for 10pounds the set INCLUDING 4 useless renault 4 wheels) I had no trouble getting to the side of the road in a controllable fashion when I had a puncture and that was a tubed tire that went down really fast.... but I wouldn't want to have to do the same nowadays.

At a guess we were both younger and invunerable in those days....

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2007, 08:01:31 am »
All of this, because Ford wanted a soft ride on the Explorer and Firestone couldn't build or deliver a safe tire that matched that expectation.  Especially when one of these:

worked perfectly well. 


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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2007, 03:51:12 pm »
Newer generation systems are not banded to the barrel of the wheel. They are part of the valve stem and are at the base against the wheel. The tire installer must be very careful when removing and installing the tire. Typically the sensor is dropped into the wheel before dismounting by loosening the nut around the valve stem. However, when the tire is installed the stem is bolted in place and there must be extra caution used to not damage the base. (see image below)


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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2007, 06:26:57 pm »
 TYRED of VASECTOMIES.........get yer Valve stems re_loaded..... :rofl: is that a 9Incher there MORT :fall:

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2007, 07:14:03 pm »
Wife came home yesterday afternoon and said "I can't get my emerg brake light to go out". On checking, it was not the emerg brake light, but the TPM system light; checked and found right rear at 16# with a machine bolt head showing in the tread. Whipped it into my tire store and fixed good as new now BUT, the point is, these sytems really do work. Further, the Toyota one on the Solara is not the more complex valve stem mounted one, but the one that works off the ABS only. Still works fine.

Now I'm concerned as to how someone with an IQ of 160 can not figure out which is emerg brake light and which is TPM light............ ??? ::) ::) :rofl: Gotta love 'em.  ;D
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2007, 07:18:53 pm »
the reason she has the 160 IQ is SHE got U to do the SCUD WORK...... :rofl:...now put on yer Eunuch Pantaloons and get the lady a DOUBLE SCOTCH..... ;D..Oh and when yer DONE...My tyres need rotating and balanced..... :P

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2007, 07:22:16 pm »
Well, when questioned, she did say "you look after the cars, I look after other stuff".

So, as a good husband who knows when he is up against the wall of illogical responses, I shut up about it.

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2007, 07:23:57 pm »
when are ya gettin' yer "gonads" re_INSURED.... ;) :stick: ??? Just tell her she looks FAT in those Jeans.... :rofl: :rofl2:.........Kewlona Times....."Man found impaled between a Solara and Mustang..NO FOUL PLAY suspected!!!"...........
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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2007, 07:26:01 pm »
Now I'm concerned as to how someone with an IQ of 160 can not figure out which is emerg brake light and which is TPM light............ ??? ::) ::) :rofl: Gotta love 'em.  ;D

Ummm, did she read the friendly owner's manual from front to back?  My wife is a doctor - hasn't read an owner's manual since we've been married.  We get a new car - she says "just gimme the highlights."  This gets more difficult with each new car as the technology increases.  Crikey, I'm glad we don't has one of those BMWs with the I-Drive thingie...

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Re: Tire Pressure Monitoring System in 2007 Toyota Sienna
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2007, 08:26:47 pm »
My wife, read the Manual?? You must be joking? Ha, ha, ha... :rofl: :rofl: Actually I did suggest to her that she should do that but I doubt she will.. in fact, I know she won't.

It's hopeless, I fear.  ::) ::)