Author Topic: Pennzoil Platinum full Synthetic (Read 19394 times)

slybry · « **on:** February 07, 2007, 10:42:21 am »

I have been using Mobil 1 but find it $$$$ pricey $$$$. Have stayed away from Castrol synthetics due to bad comment about products on this site.

Crappy Tire has Pennzoil Platinum on sale starting Saturday 10 Feb for $24 for 4.7 liters (30% off).

Any reasons for me not to use this product and save myself few buck-a-roos?

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safristi · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2007, 10:50:35 am »

I believe it tested Mid_Pack in a recent posting on this site about SYNTH TESTING.
Definitely better than DINO JUICE.

I took advantage of a $29 Canadian Tired special of Labour,Filter and up to 5 Litres of Quaker State's new synthetic and my Millenia with it's 6 year old battery has started daily in this Ontario DEEP FREEZE...so I don't see a problem with that Bargoon price for a decent SYNTH.

The TOP finishers in the test FYI were AMSOIL & MOBIL 1........how much the subtle differences make in real life to an engine..I don't know and I've used both Amsoil & Mobil 1...maybe it is Hype in choosing amongst REAL SYNTHETICS BUT for SURE they are better than DINO (traditional OILS) especially in start up wear..in WINTER and for heavy load and extra HOT situations.....

gta_driver · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2007, 12:25:54 pm »

Pennzoil and Quaker State are both brands owned by Royal Dutch Shell.

http://pennzoil-quakerstate.com/

I use the full synthetic 5w20 Quaker State on the Acura. I've used it since basically new. On occassion I use the full synthetic Pennzoil Platinum full synthetic on the Infiniti. I don't have any complaints.

bgclarke · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2007, 12:49:22 pm »

Pennzoil Platinum is very good oil.

A member of another forum I belong to ran Pennzoil Platinum 5w30 9,000 miles in his car.
There was still life (TBN) left in the oil and no excess wear on the motor as a result of the extended oil change interval.

You may notice that your motor will sound quieter with Pennzoil Platinum than Mobil 1 (common complaint about M1 is noisier valvetrain).

ktm525 · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2007, 01:18:02 pm »

Quote from: slybry on February 07, 2007, 10:42:21 am

I have been using Mobil 1 but find it $$$$ pricey $$$$. Have stayed away from Castrol synthetics due to bad comment about products on this site.

Crappy Tire has Pennzoil Platinum on sale starting Saturday 10 Feb for $24 for 4.7 liters (30% off).

Any reasons for me not to use this product and save myself few buck-a-roos??

Mobil is no longer your refuge. They have dumbed down their synthetic line similar to what Castrol did. Now you are stuck with German Castrol, the mighty XD-3 (for how long?) or other boutiques.

tortoise · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2007, 01:38:41 pm »

What exactly do you mean by "dumbed down"?

Mobil1 isn't exactly a university student on a bender...

I'm interested 'cause I've been using Mobile1...

safristi · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2007, 01:39:56 pm »

I tho't they Dumbed IT UP.......introduced the EXTRA LONG MILEAGE VERSION use in
Germany?

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bgclarke · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2007, 02:59:31 pm »

While ExxonMobil will not publically admit it, they have moved Mobil 1 from a PAO based (Group IV base oil) to hydrocracked Group III base oils.

Castrol has been using hydrocracked Group III base oils for Syntec for years (Mobil took them to court over calling it a true synthetic in the late 90s and lost).

Pennzoil Platinum also uses hydrocracked Group III base oils, but you don't pay the premium price for it that you do for Mobil 1 or Syntec.

ktm525 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2007, 03:11:36 pm »

Quote from: bgclarke on February 07, 2007, 02:59:31 pm

While ExxonMobil will not publically admit it, they have moved Mobil 1 from a PAO based (Group IV base oil) to hydrocracked Group III base oils.

Castrol has been using hydrocracked Group III base oils for Syntec for years (Mobil took them to court over calling it a true synthetic in the late 90s and lost).

Pennzoil Platinum also uses hydrocracked Group III base oils, but you don't pay the premium price for it that you do for Mobil 1 or Syntec.

Well put. I guess Mobil went the "If you can't beat them you might as well join them." For the record I am a German Castrol or Esso XD-3 guy. For dirtbikes or my vintage Volvo I like Rotella 15W-40 HDEO .

slybry · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2007, 03:46:19 pm »

I do not do my own oil changes. I buy the oil and bring it to my mechanic. The reason I do this is because he stocks Castrol and I heard so many negative things about this stuff I wanted to use better oil. Thus I have been buying Mobil 1.

If all the oils have now been "Dumbed Down" to the same level as Castrol I might as well just save myself the trouble and let him put in the Castrol he stocks.

If nothing is to be gained I will not bother bringing my own oil.

Correct?

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airbalancer · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2007, 03:50:34 pm »

As long as the oil is rated for your car and you change , you are good with any kind
I used Castro Red, made in Germany, was on sale at PS for $6.22/l
I have go and pick up the two cases I have on back order

safristi · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2007, 03:52:09 pm »

I find it hard to believe MOBIL 1 has introduced a 25,000 Km guaranteed OIL and has made it of POORER QUALITY ??...something is fishy here..!!!!

where is MY KING P.A.O chicken

...back to AMSOIL fer me then ..if true....

Anyone have a 2007 LIST then of TRUE PAO i.e TRUE SYNTHETIC OILS???

tortoise · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:00:16 pm »

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back to AMSOIL fer me then ..if true....

x2

ktm525 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2007, 04:26:53 pm »

Quote from: safristi on February 07, 2007, 03:52:09 pm

I find it hard to believe MOBIL 1 has introduced a 25,000 Km guaranteed OIL and has maid it of POORER QUALITY ??...something is fishy here..!!!!

where is MY KING P.A.O chicken ...back to AMSOIL fer me then ..if true....

Anyone have a 2007 LIST then of TRUE PAO i.e TRUE SYNTHETIC OILS???

We can start one:

I know that Esso XD-3 0W-30 and 0W-40 are PAO's
Castrol 0W-30 "German Castrol" is a PAO
Mobil 0W-40 is still PAO (?)

bgclarke · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:10:49 pm »

A lot of the churn regarding Mobil 1 over on BITOG comes from the M1 no longer being a true synthetic, yet you still pay the true synthetic price for it.

Mobil 1 is still good oil, but why pay a premium price when you can get a "synthetic" oil that is just as good for less money?

safristi · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:12:36 pm »

well bg seems like some of Mobil still is TRUE SYNTH...lets wait and hear the REST OF THE STORY...says Saf in his best Paul Harvey impersonation....

bgclarke · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:53:25 pm »

No question, some of Mobil's stuff is still true synthetic, but the common ones (5w30 and 10w30) appear to have a Group III component in them.

Heck, even one blend of Amsoil has Group III base oils, but Amsoil openly admits it.

In the grand scheme of things, any API SM/ILSAC GF-4 formulated oils will do just fine in everyday use.

dave 2 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2007, 07:25:11 pm »

Quote from: tortoise on February 07, 2007, 04:00:16 pm

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back to AMSOIL fer me then ..if true....

x2

That's what I use.

curls · « **Reply #18 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:31:01 am »

I was thinking about going with the Pennz Platinun thats on sale next week, but since it is a GrpIII and my current oil, esso XD-3 is a PAO, I'm sticking with the Esso for only a few bucks more.

I've heard a lot of good things about the Platinum on BITOG (bobistheoilguy.com) but even more good things about XD-3 from the Canadian members.

ktm525 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 08, 2007, 10:51:51 am »

Quote from: curls on February 08, 2007, 08:31:01 am

I was thinking about going with the Pennz Platinun thats on sale next week, but since it is a GrpIII and my current oil, esso XD-3 is a PAO, I'm sticking with the Esso for only a few bucks more.

I've heard a lot of good things about the Platinum on BITOG (bobistheoilguy.com) but even more good things about XD-3 from the Canadian members.

As long as your vehicles can utilize the 0W-30 or 0W-40 weights of XD3 then this is a great way to go. How much do you pay for your XD3? I picked up 24 1L bottles for just under $100. This works out to about $4/L which is a steal for a full PAO.