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Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« on: February 01, 2007, 08:16:39 am »
Drivers steer clear of green concerns
Study shows buying an environmentally friendly vehicle ranked just 23rd among 26 reasons for purchase
GREG KEENAN

From Thursday's Globe and Mail

TORONTO — The notion that fretful Canadians concerned about global warming are racing out to buy more environmentally friendly vehicles is overblown, according to a survey of new vehicle buyers by Maritz Research.

Buying an environmentally friendly vehicle ranked just 23rd among 26 reasons for purchase, the Maritz New Vehicle Customer Study of 38,500 buyers showed.

Protecting the environment ranked well behind value for money, fuel economy and reliability — the top three reasons for buying a certain vehicle — and was also less important to those surveyed than towing capability and interior styling. Even buyers of subcompact cars were more interested in storage and cargo capacity than environmental friendliness.

"In actual buying behaviour, it's not manifesting itself in the purchase-decision process," said Chris Travell, vice-president of Maritz's automotive research group. "It doesn't hold a candle to these other issues."

While the issue of fuel economy ranked near the top of the survey list, Canadian buyers appeared to shrug off that concern last year.

They bought more luxury and large sport utility vehicles, the lightning rod for environmentalists who criticize the auto industry.

Sales of large SUVs jumped 17 per cent last year from 2005 levels, while luxury SUV sales jumped 6 per cent, according to data compiled by DesRosiers Automotive Consultants of Richmond Hill, Ont.

The large SUV segment includes some of the largest gas-guzzlers on the road, such as the Dodge Durango, Ford Expedition, Chevrolet Suburban and Toyota Sequoia. Luxury SUVs include such Canadian-built vehicles as the Lexus RX 330, Chrysler Pacifica and Acura MDX.

Increases in sales of those vehicles came in a year when the average price of regular gasoline topped out at $1.13 a litre in August.

The price of gas has fallen substantially since then, to less than 80 cents a litre on occasion, at some locations in Canada. But the weekly average did not drop below 86.2 cents a litre at any point last year, according to Calgary-based M.J. Ervin & Associates.

Dennis DesRosiers, president of DesRosiers Automotive Consultants, pointed out that sales of subcompact cars surged 20 per cent, one sign that gas prices did have an impact. But sales of compact cars fell, as did deliveries of minivans and mid-size SUVs.

Canadians bought 21 per cent more crossover utility vehicles, which combine the ride of a car with the space and functionality of an SUV.

"You can see very clearly in those numbers how the middle of the market is collapsing," Mr. DesRosiers said.

The market is becoming more fragmented and typical family vehicles such as minivans are feeling the impact, he said.

Minivan sales fell to just 152,000 last year, the lowest point in more than a decade.

Ford Motor has stopped making minivans entirely and General Motors is also on the verge of abandoning that market.

When asked point blank, buyers maintain that the environment is important, Maritz's Mr. Travell said, but that concern gets overwhelmed by the other factors.

He pointed out, however, that hybrid vehicles, which combine the traditional internal combustion engine with battery power, are coming down in price, although they haven't reached the levels yet of non-hybrids.

If consumers had a choice of a traditional sedan or a hybrid model that is the same in all other ways, they would probably choose the hybrid, he said.

"Manufacturers know this and have priced vehicles that have a hybrid option with only a slight premium over the non-hybrid model," he said.


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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2007, 08:24:14 am »
Watched part of Steve Pakin's AGENDA on TVO last night...about cars Vs GLOWBALLS SWARMING...the depth of ignorance about BOTH topics by most of the panel was shocking.............the previous guest an ex Clinton Gov Bloviater had a book "HELL AND HIGH WATER" to sell and kept twisting facts....1/3 of global BS i s caused by CARS...HUH!!! wot rock has he been UNDER.........we ALL UNDER an ASSAULT 24/7 about this..and we cow !! TOW!! to the media and TV to look GOOD and responsible...YES MR and Mrs SAFF   will drive a 9 VOLT car soooooon   (NOT) and cut back on their use of their car by taking SWEATY/COLD/innefficient PUBLIC TRANSPO that doesn't start at their driveway and end at their destination..they will also sacrifice their first born on the ALTER OF GREEN on Parliament HILL with DION doing the HONOURS........


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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2007, 08:57:12 am »
Here's the solution  :rofl2:

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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 09:03:17 am »
COW...Methane.....Propane ??...SELF BBQ'ing BEEF....Mmmmmmm make mine Medium RARE and 2 inches THICK...slathered wif grilled onions..baked POTS and sour cream wif a crisp salad and fresh corn...IS IT SUMMER YET...where is this FACKIN GLOWBALLS WARNIN when ya NEED IT...Brrrrr freezin my arse off here BBQin a HOT DOG.... :'(

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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 09:10:36 am »
Watched part of Steve Pakin's AGENDA on TVO last night...about cars Vs GLOWBALLS SWARMING...the depth of ignorance about BOTH topics by most of the panel was shocking.............the previous guest an ex Clinton Gov Bloviater had a book "HELL AND HIGH WATER" to sell and kept twisting facts....1/3 of global BS i s caused by CARS...HUH!!! wot rock has he been UNDER.........we ALL UNDER an ASSAULT 24/7 about this..and we cow !! TOW!! to the media and TV to look GOOD and responsible...YES MR and Mrs SAFF   will drive a 9 VOLT car soooooon   (NOT) and cut back on their use of their car by taking SWEATY/COLD/innefficient PUBLIC TRANSPO that doesn't start at their driveway and end at their destination..they will also sacrifice their first born on the ALTER OF GREEN on Parliament HILL with DION doing the HONOURS........


          Read this it's FUNNY BUT TRUE.............


  http://www.baileycar.com/baileyblog.html
I watched that as well.... the funniest part was the woman who lived in downtown Boston and thought that everyone should live within a 5 minute walk of their job/school/hospital etc.  Geographically very difficult  8)

However, that program was better than most of them on that subject...if not by much
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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2007, 09:14:35 am »
So that WAS  yer WIFEY...hence the move ta GUELPHY !!!!! :o ::) :P :stick:..I'll give ya $1,999.99 fer tha BIMMER ta ease YER CONSCIENCE..... :rofl2:

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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2007, 10:01:52 am »
Well that's lame, fuel economy was cited as the #2 reason. Which to me is environmental (could argue moreso monetary savings) in itself.

I think emissions will become a bigger issue going forward. I know I think about it more today than I did a year ago, but also know it's not much of a buying criteria because I can't tell myself what's coming out of the tailpipe, and there's no standardized published table of emissions like there is fuel economy.
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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2007, 10:42:10 am »
If you can get people to do the right thing i.e. buy the most fuel efficient vehicle that meets their needs, even for the wrong (or indirect) reasons i.e. impact on pocketbook of high fuel prices, it’s still a move in the right direction.
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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2007, 10:56:24 am »
"RIGHT" direction..... ya make a wrong turn MAN..... :stick:..LHD is where it's AT HERE... :rofl2:

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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2007, 11:14:44 am »
I've mentioned it before, but the fact that the Yaris is ULEV2 compliant WAS a purchase factor for me.
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Re: Drivers steer clear of green concerns
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2007, 01:24:49 pm »
How come I have yet to read about any environmental lobby group trying to limit the size of house that someone can build? Isn't it common sense that a 3000 sq ft house will have a much bigger "environmental footprint" than a 1500 sq ft house? Whenever I hear someone claiming how their new monster house is so efficient it sounds like somebody claiming they drive the most efficient heavy duty truck.

The study mentioned just illustrates the major problem with basing major decisons on polls - people will always say one thing and do another.