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Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?

Yes
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No
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Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« on: January 09, 2007, 09:46:36 am »
Found this interesting, 49% yes, 49% no overall but a wide difference when age factored in.  You young'ens are more open to trying something like a Chinese car (poll info is at the end of the article  ;) ).

from:http://www.cbc.ca/consumer/story/2007/01/09/chinese-cars.html


Chinese car companies aiming to steer into foreign markets
Last Updated: Tuesday, January 9, 2007 | 9:05 AM ET
The Associated Press

Making its debut at the Detroit auto show, Changfeng Motor Co. Ltd. is just one of many Chinese automakers aiming to bring its cars to countries overseas and secure an entry in the competitive global market.

"Through the collaboration with local dealers, we will jointly promote Changfeng's products in the North American and global market," Li Jianxin, chairman of parent Changfeng Group Co. Ltd., said during a news conference Monday.

Roadblocks remain, such as the cost of getting Chinese-built cars to the United States and consumer worries about their quality, but some observers expect the vehicles will be competing for drivers before the end of the decade.

"One of these days, you're going to see Chinese cars all over the place," said American entrepreneur Malcolm Bricklin, who brought the Yugo and Subaru to the United States and wants to export luxury vehicles from China to the U.S. as soon as 2009.

While the U.S. market likely will be important for Chinese carmakers, surviving in their home market may be a shorter-term focus. Foreign automakers are competing aggressively in China, where sales are expanding at double-digit annual rates and major U.S., European and Asian producers have set up factories.

Vehicle sales in China to jump in 2007

The industry estimates that vehicle sales in China this year are expected to rise by 15 per cent to eight million, up from an estimated seven million in 2006, compared with predictions the U.S. sales will be flat to lower after dropping to about 16.5 million in 2006 from just under 17 million in 2005.

Chinese manufacturers face tough logistical issues in bringing vehicles to the U.S., such as establishing dealer and service networks, as well as the cost of bringing them in from afar, said Rebecca Lindland, an auto analyst at Global Insight, an economic research and consulting company. The overall cost of importing, she noted, is part of why Japanese and South Korean automakers built plants in the U.S.

Some of those obstacles could be avoided through partnerships with companies that already have a significant share of the U.S. market. And because of that, the first Chinese-made cars for the U.S. might not be sold under Chinese nameplates.

U.S., Chinese automakers form partnerships

Last month, DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group and China's Chery Automobile Co. announced that they agreed on a plan for the Chinese manufacturer to build small cars to be sold worldwide. They will be sold at Chrysler dealerships including those in the U.S. under the Dodge, Chrysler or Jeep names.

General Motors Corp. and Ford Motor Co. already have significant manufacturing deals with Chinese companies, but they aren't sold in the U.S. GM chief executive Rick Wagoner said it is possible that GM would build a small car in China and import it to the U.S, but the company has no plans to do that at present.

Public perception of Chinese vehicles — and their quality — will be key in how well they are received. People were evenly divided on whether they would consider buying a car from a Chinese manufacturer — 49 per cent said yes and 49 per cent said no in an AP-AOL Autos poll conducted last month.

Young people are more open to the idea of buying a Chinese car than are older people — 70 per cent of those under 35 would consider buying a Chinese car, compared with just 39 per cent of those 35 and older.
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 09:50:03 am »
well folks bought the PONIES and First Toyotas...and they were crap...so here we go again..but I bet whatever they bring will be a Quantun Leap over the Japanese and Koreans FIRST EFFORTS...so I would say "YES"........now if they would just do a Lotus EXIGE fer $15K..........i'd be on it like white on RICE :P
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 09:52:44 am »
.now if they would just do a Lotus EXIGE fer $15K..........i'd be on it like white on RICE :P

Me too (I think if I understood that right  ;) )    :D

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2007, 12:07:27 pm »
I think there is a big distinction to be made between Chinese-built and Chinese-branded cars.  I think most people would buy a Chinese built Toyota or Honda because they would feel that those firms' quality controls and sales and service infrastructure would be behind the purchase.  I think people would be less confident in the quality controls, dealer networks, and aftermarket service capabilities of Chery or Great Wall.

I'm sure it works the same way with electronics.  We buy Chinese-built Sony and Panansonic products without thinking, but how many of us run out to buy such brands as Prima or Konka?
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2007, 12:15:05 pm »
Prima Konka...........please enLIGHTen us O' Trade Commision...errr..... :stick: :stick: :think: :rofl2:

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2007, 02:10:29 pm »
Electronic equivalents of Chery and Great Wall...

You can usuallly find their stuff at Zellers, Wal Mart, Future Shop, and The Source.

http://www.konka.com.hk/

http://www.primaamerica.com/



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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2007, 02:13:04 pm »
I used ta have a Primo Conker in ma YOOF!!!!

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 10:02:37 pm »
Hey all,

 I am 28 and would for one consider a chinese car. I would like to mention that if a car like this was offered here it would probably sell to the immigrants that come here from china first. I know that I am upset with North American automakers focusing on large cars, and gas guzzling SUV's. China at least knows how to do most things efficently in terms of power. We can all bask in the fact that like or it not in 20 years there will be no North American auto industry owned here by an american. So let's just get used to it, and be ready for when our governments try to negotiate free trade with China / Japan so we don't get soaked with huge tariffs on the cars.


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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2007, 08:54:44 pm »
Nope. They'd have to get where Hyundai is now, building a quality product with a strong warranty for a lower price than the competition.  There's a big difference between cheap and inexpensive.

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2007, 09:16:28 pm »
Not now.  I'm not saying never, but the "made in China" stuff I run into right now is generally terrible quality.  It's okay if my CD player breaks.  Not the same if my car breaks.

But if they were to have a renaissance in quality and design like Hyundai is going through right now, I'd consider one.
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 07:49:50 am »
Not now.  I'm not saying never, but the "made in China" stuff I run into right now is generally terrible quality.  It's okay if my CD player breaks.  Not the same if my car breaks.

But if they were to have a renaissance in quality and design like Hyundai is going through right now, I'd consider one.


IMHO you will not see the level of refinement needed to compete on a global scale from a country with a communist government.

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 09:48:56 am »
They (China) are communist "LITE" now in Economics...like British Columbia  !!! :rofl: :P

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 10:26:58 am »
I'd have a really tough time buying a Chinese built car (either branded or otherwise).   I would not buy an Equinox or Torrent with the 3.4 as it's made in China.   I'm not anti-Chinese made, I simply feel more comfortable spending my money on something manufactured elsewhere (unless it's very inexpensive household items).   

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 10:44:35 am »
Wait till the $8,000 Grocery getters arrive at WALMART...they'll be line_UPS...... :-\    :D $7,999 Price slasher......fer all, ye Wally Mart haters.....
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2007, 11:13:55 am »
No.

My understanding of the Chinese market is that it’s not very sophisticated and that Chinese consumers don't want to pay for quality. They just don't see value in it. If no one is willing to pay for quality, I doubt manufacturers are too concerned about it, either. So I don’t think manufacturers have any motivation to manufacture quality cars, only cheap ones. Entry into the U.S. market at the lowest price poiints won't change anything.

I’d rather pay a bit more for a quality car.  8)
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2007, 11:17:49 am »
Damn :banghead: do YOU LOT really think they are gonna send a "stinker" over to N America as there 1st Effort???..............well I have news fer U......I'd hazard a guess that it may well be a loss leader fer THEM  but a Bargoon fer US....they are NOT STUPID......"PONY" UP U lot when ya lose yer BETS.......lets' see thats 4 Trillion Yuan..tan a Meraaah....fack I'm RICH!!!! :banana: :banana: :banana: >:D :bow: :skid: :lick: :inlove: :pimp: :bounce: :bounce: :eye:

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2007, 07:50:35 pm »
IMHO you will not see the level of refinement needed to compete on a global scale from a country with a communist government.

True, but the People's Republic of China is rapidly becoming a country with a Communist political system but capitalist economy.

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 07:57:25 pm »
Quite the REVERSE of the USA!!! :P..just kidding...yer a Facist Dictatorship...according to some here!!! :rofl2:

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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2007, 11:52:57 am »
IMHO you will not see the level of refinement needed to compete on a global scale from a country with a communist government.

True, but the People's Republic of China is rapidly becoming a country with a Communist political system but capitalist economy.

You're right that they've moved away from the traditional Communist economic system but I would not describe it as a capitalist system, a market system yes, but not capitalist.

Capitalism holds individual property rights sacrosanct which is not the case in China. Intellectual property rights are the easiest but by no means the only property rights routinely trampled. Also the Chinese Communist Party can (and I'm sure will) change the rules of the game whenever and wherever it suites their interest to do so. They have changed the way things work in the economy without surrendering any of their control of the economy. It is not even close to being a free market economy and thus not capitalist as we know it.





I'm not an early adopter so I won't be buying a Chinese car at any point in the foreseeable future.
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Re: Would You Buy a Chinese Built Car?
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2007, 11:59:58 am »
The BEST of BOTH Worlds as the Democrats would say.......Pelosi Pile_on pylon.... :P :rofl: