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I wonder what the percentage is in Canada.
I'll put a guess out there: 75%.
Can you buy an MT Camry? I don't recall seeing one for many years now. Toyota hasn't dropped the MT option on their Camry's, they were available in the last two generations, and I believe can still be had on the SE model for the present generation Camry. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if 97% or higher of all Camry sales were AT. One of my good friends used to lease a MT Camry. I think it was 2002. Anyways, he said they had to bring the car in from Japan because nobody orders a MT Camry. Still, he wanted it and got it. Afterwards, he bought it out and sold it privately for a profit. It was snapped up immediately. The new owner was thrilled he found a MT Camry, couldn't believe one existed. Wanted the Camry comfort & reliability, but wanted manual.
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2006, 10:57:23 pm » |
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I wonder what the percentage is in Canada.
I'll put a guess out there: 75%.
Can you buy an MT Camry? I don't recall seeing one for many years now. Toyota hasn't dropped the MT option on their Camry's, they were available in the last two generations, and I believe can still be had on the SE model for the present generation Camry. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if 97% or higher of all Camry sales were AT. Yes, the manual is only available in the SE with the 4 cylinder engine. V6 is auto only. |
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2006, 11:09:54 pm » |
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Toyota did drop the manual transmission option for the RAV4 with the most recent redesign. There were several manual (previous generation) RAV4s for sale when I was shopping for mine a year ago.
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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2006, 12:21:09 am » |
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I wonder what the percentage is in Canada.
I'll put a guess out there: 75%.
My guess (for Canada): 86% For States: 93% |
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« Reply #24 on: December 31, 2006, 01:06:50 am » |
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Auto are easier to drive, one less thing to think about.
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« Reply #25 on: December 31, 2006, 08:18:16 am » |
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Auto are easier to drive, one less thing to think about.
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« Reply #27 on: December 31, 2006, 08:46:06 am » |
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Auto are easier to drive, one less thing to think about.
Maybe so for the 7 months when its not icy or snow covered out there. Personally I think that autos are death on wheels when its slippery... never quite sure what is happening at the wheels. To be fair... I have not driven an automatic for any length of time since the '70s. But I will be putting some miles on an Ody ( with snow tires) over the next month. Maybe I'll change my mind. |
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« Reply #28 on: December 31, 2006, 09:10:46 am » |
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I wonder what the percentage is in Canada.
I'll put a guess out there: 75%.
Can you buy an MT Camry? I don't recall seeing one for many years now. Toyota hasn't dropped the MT option on their Camry's, they were available in the last two generations, and I believe can still be had on the SE model for the present generation Camry. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if 97% or higher of all Camry sales were AT. One of my good friends used to lease a MT Camry. I think it was 2002. Anyways, he said they had to bring the car in from Japan because nobody orders a MT Camry. Still, he wanted it and got it. Afterwards, he bought it out and sold it privately for a profit. It was snapped up immediately. The new owner was thrilled he found a MT Camry, couldn't believe one existed. Wanted the Camry comfort & reliability, but wanted manual. Interesting. I've seen maybe two used MT Camry's for sale a while back. Since they were MT, I was now a bit more interested, so I called the owners up and they said that they were both sold within a day of them posting the ad. |
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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2006, 09:49:55 am » |
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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2006, 10:04:13 am » |
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I'm going to say that Canada has about 85-90% autos and increasing. Maybe so for the 7 months when its not icy or snow covered out there. Personally I think that autos are death on wheels when its slippery... never quite sure what is happening at the wheels.
To be fair... I have not driven an automatic for any length of time since the '70s. But I will be putting some miles on an Ody ( with snow tires) over the next month. Maybe I'll change my mind. I really don't think so. I've driven with many people who drive manuals that really don't know what to do either making little differences. Driver skill is the biggest factor in winter driving (or any driving) abilities. You can still use an auto to aid in engine braking and control. I've driven both and notice hardly a difference between the two. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2006, 11:01:10 am » |
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I'm going to say that Canada has about 85-90% autos and increasing. Maybe so for the 7 months when its not icy or snow covered out there. Personally I think that autos are death on wheels when its slippery... never quite sure what is happening at the wheels.
To be fair... I have not driven an automatic for any length of time since the '70s. But I will be putting some miles on an Ody ( with snow tires) over the next month. Maybe I'll change my mind. I really don't think so. I've driven with many people who drive manuals that really don't know what to do either making little differences. Driver skill is the biggest factor in winter driving (or any driving) abilities. You can still use an auto to aid in engine braking and control. I've driven both and notice hardly a difference between the two. Very true, I was involved in an accident as a passenger when the driver downshifted on a slippery winter road and broke the rear out and spun out into another car. |
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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2006, 11:15:07 am » |
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I would never drive auto in Europe, people would think you couldn't drive it would be very very embarrassing. Manuals are piece of cake to drive in all weathers, I can drive one just as easy as any crappy autobox. it sucks the sole of any good car. . |
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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2006, 11:44:07 am » |
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Maybe so for the 7 months when its not icy or snow covered out there. Personally I think that autos are death on wheels when its slippery... never quite sure what is happening at the wheels.
To be fair... I have not driven an automatic for any length of time since the '70s. But I will be putting some miles on an Ody ( with snow tires) over the next month. Maybe I'll change my mind. I really don't think so. I've driven with many people who drive manuals that really don't know what to do either making little differences. Driver skill is the biggest factor in winter driving (or any driving) abilities. You can still use an auto to aid in engine braking and control. I've driven both and notice hardly a difference between the two.  Driven both; winter, gravel, wet, dry, paved, icy, you name it. SUV's, P/Us, cars. Tires and driver ability are by far more of a factor than tranny type. A good driver will know what the tires are doing regardless of transmission. But of course most drivers are not good drivers  And tpl if AT's were inherently more dangerous than MTs, do you not think the government would have banned them long before now?  |
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2006, 12:29:22 pm » |
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The governement would not ban them and I don't think that they are necessarily more dangerous than MT and I do agree that the tires and driver involvement( paying attention) are at least if not more important. And Note that I admit to not having driven a modern auto equipped car...the last one I put many miles of was in the days of RWD, automatic chokes and 1975 vintage emission controls... but it put me off ever trying another one!  "But of course most drivers are not good drivers " I put this down to a lack of training rather than anything intrinsic... and the govs certainly will NEVER alienate the driving public by making the driving test more difficult |
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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2006, 12:30:15 pm » |
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Maybe so for the 7 months when its not icy or snow covered out there. Personally I think that autos are death on wheels when its slippery... never quite sure what is happening at the wheels. Death on wheels? I don't think so. They just require a different set of skills than a manual. Once you learn these skills you'll be fine. |
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"But of course most drivers are not good drivers " I put this down to a lack of training rather than anything intrinsic... and the govs certainly will NEVER alienate the driving public by making the driving test more difficult
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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2006, 02:01:16 pm » |
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Death on wheels? I don't think so. They just require a different set of skills than a manual. Once you learn these skills you'll be fine. What different skills do you need to drive an auto vs manual? |
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2006, 02:06:53 pm » |
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The ones that prevent the car from becoming death on wheels. Obviously many automatic drivers have mastered them. |
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