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« Reply #100 on: January 04, 2007, 05:00:29 pm » |
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I am seriously starting to wonder about the mental capacity of those who claim that manual transmissions require too much concentration to drive in traffic. WTF is that about? Shifting gears manually should be second nature to any competent driver. I've driven in plenty of heavy traffic and I have never ever found it too mentally taxing. What's next? It's too hard to concentrate on steering because of traffic? Jesus H. fracking Christ, I can't believe how disgusted I am with some of the lame-ass excuses some people can come up with to justify their laziness.  My thoughts exactly! Furthermore, learning how to drive a manual car is not hard at all. I've seen very bad drivers driving manual cars, and know of excellent drivers who don't know how to drive a stick.
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« Reply #101 on: January 04, 2007, 06:20:48 pm » |
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I am seriously starting to wonder about the mental capacity of those who claim that manual transmissions require too much concentration to drive in traffic. WTF is that about? Shifting gears manually should be second nature to any competent driver. I've driven in plenty of heavy traffic and I have never ever found it too mentally taxing. What's next? It's too hard to concentrate on steering because of traffic? Jesus H. fracking Christ, I can't believe how disgusted I am with some of the lame-ass excuses some people can come up with to justify their laziness.  Sorry for the angry outburst and the harsh words.  However, it is really incredibly lame to claim that manual gear shifting is somehow too intellectually taxing to do in heavy traffic. There are plenty of convenience features on modern cars that are there for convenience (aka. laziness  ) and automatic transmissions are just another such feature. There's nothing particularly wrong with wanting convenience and there can be good physical reasons to really favour such a solution (i.e. bad knees and all). However, claiming that manual transmissions are just too mentally difficult to use is disingenuous, bordering on insulting. My wife has driven a manual are her life and when we first met she was diving a Bronco MT  Now she does not want to drive one and finds it far easier to deal with children in the car and heavy city traffic with a slushbox. This is what she wants and Im not going to argue with her. When she wants some excitement she takes Rut Ro out and beats on males driving MT Mazda 3s and assorted poser sport cars.  |
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« Reply #102 on: January 04, 2007, 06:43:45 pm » |
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IMO the downward trend in manuals has gotten worse due to: cellphones next text messaging blackberries. It is hard to drive in traffic with a manual tranny if you are also trying to surf the net on your Blackberry.  cellphone usuage is exactly why my wife likes automatics now. |
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« Reply #103 on: January 04, 2007, 07:53:04 pm » |
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« Reply #104 on: January 04, 2007, 08:35:12 pm » |
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But not when she is busy driving the car. Aren't women better at multitasking? |
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« Reply #105 on: January 04, 2007, 08:50:47 pm » |
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Aren't women better at multitasking?
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« Reply #106 on: January 05, 2007, 12:56:53 am » |
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I am seriously starting to wonder about the mental capacity of those who claim that manual transmissions require too much concentration to drive in traffic. WTF is that about? Shifting gears manually should be second nature to any competent driver. I've driven in plenty of heavy traffic and I have never ever found it too mentally taxing. What's next? It's too hard to concentrate on steering because of traffic? Jesus H. fracking Christ, I can't believe how disgusted I am with some of the lame-ass excuses some people can come up with to justify their laziness.  Sorry for the angry outburst and the harsh words.  However, it is really incredibly lame to claim that manual gear shifting is somehow too intellectually taxing to do in heavy traffic. There are plenty of convenience features on modern cars that are there for convenience (aka. laziness  ) and automatic transmissions are just another such feature. There's nothing particularly wrong with wanting convenience and there can be good physical reasons to really favour such a solution (i.e. bad knees and all). However, claiming that manual transmissions are just too mentally difficult to use is disingenuous, bordering on insulting. I think, once you get good at it, it becomes second nature. Like riding a bike. I'd looove for shifting to become second nature to me. I'm thinking, it shouldn't actually be mentally taxing when it's second nature. However, if you're learning later in life how to drive manual, weren't really taught well, or for whatever reason, it can be more difficult to learn. I think, for people who have not mastered driving with a manual well, it is taxing when you're in bumper or bumper traffic or new places you're not familiar with where you need that extra level of attention. |
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Arctic_White
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« Reply #107 on: January 05, 2007, 03:08:46 am » |
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However, if you're learning later in life how to drive manual, weren't really taught well, or for whatever reason, it can be more difficult to learn.
I think, for people who have not mastered driving with a manual well, it is taxing when you're in bumper or bumper traffic or new places you're not familiar with where you need that extra level of attention.
That's very true. But it doesn't take a long time to learn how to drive stick. Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  |
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« Reply #108 on: January 05, 2007, 03:27:20 am » |
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Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  So true. The real shocker is when you next drive an automatic and your left foot automatically pushes a pedal to the floor as you reach for the non-existent stick and realize you're not in Kansas anymore and that pedal under your left foot is the brake  |
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Arctic_White
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« Reply #109 on: January 05, 2007, 04:20:47 am » |
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Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  So true. The real shocker is when you next drive an automatic and your left foot automatically pushes a pedal to the floor as you reach for the non-existent stick and realize you're not in Kansas anymore and that pedal under your left foot is the brake  Totally! Happened to me just recently while I had to move my father's car from the driveway, and I pressed on the non-existent clutch while turning the key in the ignition. Quite an experience after not having driven an automatic car in months! |
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« Reply #110 on: January 05, 2007, 06:37:06 am » |
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« Reply #111 on: January 05, 2007, 06:26:35 pm » |
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Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  So true. The real shocker is when you next drive an automatic and your left foot automatically pushes a pedal to the floor as you reach for the non-existent stick and realize you're not in Kansas anymore and that pedal under your left foot is the brake  I have both manual and auto. I get mixed up with ignition procedure some times when I am shuffling the cars around in the drive way. Otherwise, when I'm on the road, I have no problems adapting. |
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« Reply #112 on: January 05, 2007, 06:31:56 pm » |
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Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  So true. The real shocker is when you next drive an automatic and your left foot automatically pushes a pedal to the floor as you reach for the non-existent stick and realize you're not in Kansas anymore and that pedal under your left foot is the brake  Did that when I was twelve and driving the bosses 3/4ton GMC P/U in the bush 40 miles from camp, at about 30 mph. The only time I have ever stalled an automatic  |
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« Reply #113 on: January 05, 2007, 08:19:16 pm » |
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It took me two months to feel comfortable driving a stick in everyday Vancouver traffic. However, if you're learning later in life how to drive manual, weren't really taught well, or for whatever reason, it can be more difficult to learn.
I think, for people who have not mastered driving with a manual well, it is taxing when you're in bumper or bumper traffic or new places you're not familiar with where you need that extra level of attention.
That's very true. But it doesn't take a long time to learn how to drive stick. Within a couple of months, it should feel second nature.  |
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« Reply #114 on: January 06, 2007, 08:40:32 am » |
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Looks like ye've got the hang of it.....Witch Hand Drive is it....  |
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« Reply #115 on: January 18, 2007, 06:53:15 pm » |
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In all fairness, a distinction needs to be drawn between BMW offering manual transmissions on a model and actually selling manuals. BMW offers manuals on nearly everything they sell. HOWEVER, every BMW I've ever ridden in was an automatic. In my non-scientific experience, BMW owners prefer automatics. In addition, last summer I was going to test-drive the new 3-series. When I called the local BMW dealership, they didn't have a single manual-transmission 3-series in stock! You had to special-order to get a manual! And that's the frickin' 3-series  (I ended up getting sick and not going for a test-drive at all, but the very fact that they had no manuals in the entire dealership was a bit of a reality check for me) I had the exact same thing happen to me Mitlov. I've never owned (or hardly even driven) an automatic and just automatically (haha) look for a MT. BMW here in Vancouver told me that there was 'one in Calgary' that they could truck in - if I pre-bought it. They looked on the ships coming in and I think there was one maybe two that were MT. This is the Ultimate Driving Machine and you can't even get it with a MT?? Yikes. I eventually did get one a month or so later but had to wait for the next ship to get here. In the next year or so it's going to be time to get a new car and, again, BMW will be at the top of my list (very happy with my 3 series). I have read that the automatic that they have now in the e90 is supposed to be really good for an automatic. Blips the trottle to rev-match on downshifts etc. This time I may actually have a look at an automatic. BTW, if they ever really decided to curtail Cell phone use in cars, all they would have to do is mandate manual transmissions, because I find it absolutely impossible to drive with a manual and use a cell at the same time!  |
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« Reply #116 on: January 28, 2007, 12:16:09 pm » |
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My wife has driven a manual are her life and when we first met she was diving a Bronco MT Now she does not want to drive one and finds it far easier to deal with children in the car and heavy city traffic with a slushbox. This is what she wants and I’m not going to argue with her. When she wants some excitement she takes Rut Ro out and beats on males driving MT Mazda 3’s and assorted poser sport cars.  So you're wife races Mazda3's with an Impreza WRX? Lame. That's like using a Ferrari to race a Miata just because you know you'll win. Or like Hulk Hogan beating up Steve Erkel because he knows he can win. I guess it makes one feel better though. With my Mazda3 I'm pretty sure I'm faster than a 1982 Pontiac Acadian. Yup, I can beat 'em off the line no problem! |
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« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2007, 01:49:11 pm » |
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My wife has driven a manual are her life and when we first met she was diving a Bronco MT Now she does not want to drive one and finds it far easier to deal with children in the car and heavy city traffic with a slushbox. This is what she wants and Im not going to argue with her. When she wants some excitement she takes Rut Ro out and beats on males driving MT Mazda 3s and assorted poser sport cars.  So you're wife races Mazda3's with an Impreza WRX? Lame. That's like using a Ferrari to race a Miata just because you know you'll win. Or like Hulk Hogan beating up Steve Erkel because he knows he can win. I guess it makes one feel better though. With my Mazda3 I'm pretty sure I'm faster than a 1982 Pontiac Acadian. Yup, I can beat 'em off the line no problem! Weird, I really dont think Snowman was saying his wife goes not looking to race people it just happens, and she finds both trannies are good for what they do |
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« Reply #118 on: January 28, 2007, 05:02:16 pm » |
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Its okay AB. What I should have said was Wiffy likes to take Rut Ro out on occasion and when aggravated by young males driving Mazda 3’s, Civic Si’s, and Cobalt SS’s like to make their peckers shrink by out accelerating them. B2 must have previous experiences. |
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« Reply #119 on: January 28, 2007, 07:39:51 pm » |
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