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Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« on: December 30, 2006, 11:20:50 am »
Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
GM Not Ready to Duke it out with Bentley and Rolls

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2003 was a fantastic year for American concept cars. There was the Chrysler 300 C Concept, a bold, in-your-face tribute to the full-size American muscle sedan, while Ford showed off a pair of retro-inspired vehicles that would become the Mustang and the GT supercar. But it was Cadillac that really set the momentum going with a concept vehicle that promised to restore the brand back to its former glory, when it competed against the world's finest marques. That concept was the magnificent Sixteen.
Aside from its elegant Art & Science body, the Sixteen was about ultimate luxury. Its cabin was designed in a classy yet minimalist way, and made from the best materials that GM could get its hands on. Under its hood, which was hinged from the centre, was a V16 engine, a configuration that Cadillac was lauded for during the '30s. This new engine was built up from two V8s attached from end to end, creating a volume of 13.6 litres. It made a total of 1,000 horsepower and 750 lb-ft of torque without forced aspiration. The only sixteen-cylinder car currently in production is the Bugatti Veyron, which uses four turbochargers and a W-shaped cylinder arrangement.
However capable the Sixteen was at becoming the "Cadillac of Cadillacs", Automotive News reports that GM will be burying the idea of a Caddy that can run with Bentleys, Rolls Royces and Maybachs. The main reason behind the decision to can the Sixteen is that the high-end executive market isn't profitable enough for cash-strapped GM. The sales numbers in this segment are so low and so minimal that GM couldn't justify putting the Sixteen into production. It's a sad day for fans of the crested wreath brand who believe that Cadillac can stand amongst the world's finest automobiles in an arena where cars can and do cost as much as houses.
It isn't the end of the road for GM's highest-perceived luxury brand, though. Cadillac is instead concentrating on more realistic (profitable) goals that will help return it and its parent company back to the greener side of things. For instance, the upcoming NAIAS show at Detroit will see the debut of the all-new 2008 Cadillac CTS.
Already, before the debut of the sedan, Automotive News is reporting that the new CTS will be available in more than the standard body style. Keith Crain editor in chief of the publication said, "General Motors insiders say Cadillac is seriously considering a plan to create a family of CTS sedans, coupes and wagons that would emulate BMW's 3-series lineup." GM's decision to expand the CTS brand name into other segments seems a smart move; a Coupe would give GM something capable of fighting the popular Infiniti G35 Coupe, while a wagon would show Cadillac's ability to lure in wagon-happy Europeans.

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2006, 11:28:31 am »
Probably for the best.

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2006, 11:32:08 am »
Probably for the best.

That what I was think
Perfect the CTS, then more up the line 

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2006, 11:36:54 am »
Probably for the best.

:iagree:
I don't consider Cadillac anywhere near the same league as Bentley and Rolls.

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2006, 12:04:54 pm »
"cadillac cans sixteen"  I tho't that was 16 employees who showed the NEW CADDY
 CTS-V off too soon............ :rofl:...the chisseled look has yet to grow on me..they look too hi_waisted and bulky/heavy  lookin'..are they 4,000lbs????
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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2006, 02:02:30 pm »
Another agreement here.  The CTS is a very solid entry into the luxury sedan market, but it needs a bit more work before it can truly run with BMW and Infiniti on one hand, or MB and Lexus on the other.  The R&D money that would have been wasted on Cadillac's Phaeton could be productively spent here.

I'd also like to see Cadillac apply those sorts of incremental improvements to the SRX.
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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2006, 02:46:40 pm »
A good move as GM has a great rwd entry in the luxury sedan market. I can’t wait to see the 300 HP <$45k version rumoured to be coming soon.

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2006, 02:59:07 pm »
Another agreement here.  The CTS is a very solid entry into the luxury sedan market, but it needs a bit more work before it can truly run with BMW and Infiniti on one hand, or MB and Lexus on the other.  The R&D money that would have been wasted on Cadillac's Phaeton could be productively spent here.

I'd also like to see Cadillac apply those sorts of incremental improvements to the SRX.

I read that the rumour is that SRX is done in 08, CTS to have a wagon
Also a Caddy based on the Outlook platform

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2006, 09:28:51 pm »
Much as I love the CTS, I have trouble seeing it as a G35 coupe competitor.  The Infiniti is simply drop dead gorgeous - the CTS styling works for the sedan, but I'd have a hard time even considering a coupe CTS when looking at it side by side with the G...

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2006, 11:19:35 pm »
Probably for the best.

 :iagree:

Focusing on making the CTS the best they can is a wise move. It may not be the flashiest or most dramatic thing to do but making one great model seems like a better long term strategy than making two poorly executed ones.


I can’t wait to see the 300 HP <$45k version rumoured to be coming soon.

MMMM, me likes the sounds of that. 8)
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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2006, 11:31:09 pm »
300HP..are they going to stuff in the 5.3? Hopefully they'll do a good job tuning it.
I was a big fan of the CTS when it came out and seriously considered one. Now I find the styling is already starting to look dated and I still can't figure out why they offer the 2.8 .. If the Buicks have the 3.6 so should the base Caddy imho.
I'm interedted in seeing how this plays out.
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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2006, 02:37:26 am »
The CTS has a good mean looking body.  Sharp creases and strong lines give it an edgy look.  I'd consider one...especially in V form. 

As for canning the Sixteen....no brainer.  Caddy's sweet Sixteen isn't here yet....GM probably didn't think the whole thing through.....such as dealer network.  Feasability of a Maybach competitor is quite a wishful thought.

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Re: Cadillac Cans Sixteen… Builds Up CTS
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2006, 08:04:13 am »
 Any year end DEALS on the Maybach...I've heard there's a $69,000 dealer HOLDBACH........ ???