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« Reply #40 on: December 07, 2006, 05:49:57 pm » |
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It was in Belleville Would I get a Aura, probably not We have the 323CIC to play around in The Vue looked nice in leather, fully loaded was $34gs, with Honda V6
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« Reply #41 on: December 07, 2006, 06:04:11 pm » |
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The Outlooks should be trickling into dealerships within 2 weeks.
With the new VUE (heck, even with the current one), and the Astra it'll be a pretty nice dealership to shop. |
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« Reply #42 on: December 07, 2006, 06:05:49 pm » |
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Wow , priced BETTER than the accord or Camry , better looking , terrific euro design, good job GM.
How is it priced any better than the Accord or the Camry?  Can you substantiate that (for a change)? |
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« Reply #43 on: December 07, 2006, 08:31:35 pm » |
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The Aura XR and the Camry SE V6 are essentially the same cost depending on how much of a discount ppl get on the Camry. Another $500 for the XLE with smart key, plasma cluster, blue tooth. The difference in wholesale between the two will be so wide a 747 will be able to fly thru it.
Unless GM is going to apply 0% to the XR or a great lease rate these are going to be rare cars. |
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« Reply #44 on: December 07, 2006, 09:00:45 pm » |
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I don't like the Aura's looks. I keep thinking I'm looking at a Chrysler's Sebring, which I don't like either. |
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« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2006, 09:51:33 am » |
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Saleman said someone trade an A6 on a Aura
OK - I am a fan of the Aura, but trade an A6 for one?? Not on your life! Wing - you mentioned in your Day 3 summary about driving characteristics of the Vectra (Aura's European variant). It's designed primarily as a fleet car for the most part. People who buy consider the likes of the Ford Mondeo and Toyota Avensis - both of which are quiet, good cruising vehicles but not terribly performance oriented. I agree with your thoughts on those stupid paddle-shifters - what are manufacturers thinking??? You don't make a family sedan F-1 like just by slapping on paddles behind the wheel - cheese loo-eeze! |
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« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2006, 09:55:07 am » |
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How is it priced any better than the Accord or the Camry? Can you substantiate that (for a change)? My understanding is that this Saturn price advantage exists in the States, but not in Canada. The Aura XR is thousands of US dollars less than a similarly-equipped Accord or Camry. |
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« Reply #47 on: December 08, 2006, 10:05:25 am » |
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Saleman said someone trade an A6 on a Aura
OK - I am a fan of the Aura, but trade an A6 for one?? Not on your life! Wing - you mentioned in your Day 3 summary about driving characteristics of the Vectra (Aura's European variant). It's designed primarily as a fleet car for the most part. People who buy consider the likes of the Ford Mondeo and Toyota Avensis - both of which are quiet, good cruising vehicles but not terribly performance oriented. I agree with your thoughts on those stupid paddle-shifters - what are manufacturers thinking??? You don't make a family sedan F-1 like just by slapping on paddles behind the wheel - cheese loo-eeze! I beg to differ on your comment that the Mondeo is not terribly performance oriented. The Mondeo has very good credibility in Europe as far as hard to match dynamics in the family sedan segment. For that matter Ford of Europe is well known for producing drivers cars "so to speak". It would be very interesting to read what changes GM made to the Vectra/Aura(beside visual) , to make it "suitable for North American tastes". In Europe the Vectra has very good credibility as well for its Dynamics. |
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« Reply #48 on: December 08, 2006, 10:21:10 am » |
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Saleman said someone trade an A6 on a Aura
My uncle traded in a 740i on a Honda Element. It's been known to happen but very rare. With the recent BS about how a delivery driver mistakenly delivered these things to the Lexus dealership etc, it sounds like more of the same BS to hype it up. It's a nice car, but be realistic. I traded in my Maybach 62 for this Aura.   |
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« Reply #49 on: December 08, 2006, 10:45:06 am » |
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I traded in my Maybach 62 for this Aura.
My first question would be did you make a poor financial move?
People trade cars for all sorts of reasons. Individually doesn't mean much, but if there's a trend... |
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« Reply #50 on: December 08, 2006, 11:33:21 am » |
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I traded in my Maybach 62 for this Aura.
My first question would be did you make a poor financial move?
I'm just poor. Period. Besides, the Aura is the cats asss. |
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« Reply #51 on: December 08, 2006, 12:12:00 pm » |
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Wow , priced BETTER than the accord or Camry , better looking , terrific euro design, good job GM.
How is it priced any better than the Accord or the Camry? Can you substantiate that (for a change)? Toyota xle 37425.00 , Honda 36700.00 both have nav Aura has onstar. Now you can flap your gums about how wrong I am even though you are too lazy to go to their websites and check for your self.  |
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« Reply #52 on: December 08, 2006, 01:09:32 pm » |
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How is comparing a NAV system to onstar fair? Onstar is $30 a month... Nav is free. |
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« Reply #53 on: December 08, 2006, 02:06:04 pm » |
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Saleman said someone trade an A6 on a Aura
OK - I am a fan of the Aura, but trade an A6 for one?? Not on your life! Actually, I can see this happing a lot. I was just on autotrader. They have a number of 2003 A6's around $30k. So I can see a guy in 2003 buying a 1999 A6 for around 30k. He enjoys driving it for 4 years. He realizes that an 8-year old Audi is too pricey to maintain then he likes. After couple of test-drives in a new 2007 Altima and Aura, (or any other mid-sized priced sedan in this class) I can see it being very easy to move from a 8 year old premium German car. |
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« Reply #54 on: December 08, 2006, 02:10:40 pm » |
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How is comparing a NAV system to onstar fair? Onstar is $30 a month... Nav is free.
Nav is at least a 2500.00 option , not to mention having to send away for dvds to upgrade. 1 year of onstar free and then 30 a month not to mention all the other benefits of onstar sounds like a deal. |
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« Reply #55 on: December 08, 2006, 02:17:55 pm » |
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I think Onstar is great and truly a unique offering the marketplace for sure, but I don't think you can compare it to NAV.
$24.95/month for regular on-star
$48.95/month for turn-by-turn
YIKES That's more than I thought it was.
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« Reply #56 on: December 08, 2006, 03:05:29 pm » |
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I think Onstar is great and truly a unique offering the marketplace for sure, but I don't think you can compare it to NAV.
$24.95/month for regular on-star
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YIKES That's more than I thought it was.
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« Reply #57 on: December 08, 2006, 04:27:23 pm » |
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I think Onstar is great and truly a unique offering the marketplace for sure, but I don't think you can compare it to NAV.
$24.95/month for regular on-star
$48.95/month for turn-by-turn
YIKES That's more than I thought it was.
I didn't realize there are two different packages. When yo're approaching 50. a month that's steep. Too lazy to go to the website and check for yourself?  |
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« Reply #58 on: December 08, 2006, 04:28:41 pm » |
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Saleman said someone trade an A6 on a Aura
OK - I am a fan of the Aura, but trade an A6 for one?? Not on your life! Wing - you mentioned in your Day 3 summary about driving characteristics of the Vectra (Aura's European variant). It's designed primarily as a fleet car for the most part. People who buy consider the likes of the Ford Mondeo and Toyota Avensis - both of which are quiet, good cruising vehicles but not terribly performance oriented. I agree with your thoughts on those stupid paddle-shifters - what are manufacturers thinking??? You don't make a family sedan F-1 like just by slapping on paddles behind the wheel - cheese loo-eeze! I beg to differ on your comment that the Mondeo is not terribly performance oriented. The Mondeo has very good credibility in Europe as far as hard to match dynamics in the family sedan segment. For that matter Ford of Europe is well known for producing drivers cars "so to speak". It would be very interesting to read what changes GM made to the Vectra/Aura(beside visual) , to make it "suitable for North American tastes". In Europe the Vectra has very good credibility as well for its Dynamics. Differ away - I am simplly commenting on my own driving experiences in all three, that's all. Performance can be somewhat subjective though, and while I would readily take a Vectra, Modeo over even Avensis over anything put out by Ford or GM here in North America - I would still drop any of them for a 3-series or A4 if I had the $$. Having said that - I read about a year ago in WhatCar that the Modeo was the #1 fleet vehicle in the UK because of it's benign driving characterics. Maybe true, maybe not.  |
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« Reply #59 on: December 09, 2006, 09:30:56 am » |
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How does car compare to the Camry and Accord which I believe would be the main competitors? |
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