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Car affordability
« on: November 16, 2006, 08:08:42 am »
Cars affordability: Cheapest since 1980

Comerica Bank's 'Auto Affordability Index' shows average American works 23.6 weeks to buy a car.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- It may not seem like it, but cars today are cheaper than they've been in the past 25 years.
According to Michigan-based Comerica Bank's "Auto Affordability Index," it now takes 23.6 weeks of America's median family income to afford a new car. That's 2.8 weeks less than it took at the end of 1995.
It's slightly longer than it took in 1980, the second year the index was computed, according to Comerica.
Including finance charges, the average passenger vehicle sold in the third quarter of 2006 cost $26,500. That's about five percent less than the same period a year before.
Meanwhile, the average family income has risen five percent over the same period, according to Comerica.
Improved productivity in the auto industry has combined with intense competitive pressures to drive the cost of a new car downward since its high in 1994, said Dana Johnson, chief economist at Comerica.
"It's a pretty happy story for the consumer," said Johnson.
Low promotional financing rates plus a shift by consumers toward more fuel-efficient models, which tend to cost less, also helped push down the average cost of a car in recent months, said Johnson.
For example, consumers might opt for a well-equipped Ford Fusion, a midsize car, instead of a well-appointed full-size Ford Five Hundred, Johnson said.
The Auto Affordability Index will probably not stay this low, said Johnson. Once auto retailers clear out their inventories of 2006 models, those super-low interest rate deals will probably dry up, he said.
Also, now that gas prices have leveled off, the demand for more fuel efficient models is easing. That means buyers will again turn to larger models which also tend to cost more.

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2006, 09:45:01 am »
23 weeks.....that means I'd spend $450 of my hard earned money on my next car. 

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 09:53:03 am »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2006, 09:55:44 am »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

I prefer a lower percentage. 

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2006, 09:56:59 am »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

Is that household income?  Must be nice to use that rule. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2006, 10:05:12 am »
Not household income, personal income. I base it on mine.

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2006, 10:46:59 am »
The original MSRP of my 1990 325ix was over $40,000 in 1990. Geez, no wonder they didn't sell well. The entry level trim of the E46 325xi isn't much more than that, 15 years later.

The Millenia was retailed at over $43,000, and now 10 or so years later, the most expensive model in the current Mazda line up is only $36,000, and with more standard equipment.

Those are the 2 examples that I know. The car makers were make some serious fat coins back then, No?  :)

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2006, 11:00:15 am »
The first car we bought after we got married was a 1988 Mercury Tracer LS wagon (Mazda 323 clone).  Great car but it cost about $19,000, no air, no power anything, 5 speed.  Look what $19,000 will get you now   :o
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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2006, 01:14:49 pm »
My 1992 Escort GT stickered around $18000 IIRC. Could get a ZX3 Focus with similar equipment for about the same price now.
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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2006, 01:17:56 pm »
Wasn't the 92 Escort GT a re-badged Mazda 323? So in that case, better deal for the GT, yes?  :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2006, 01:20:18 pm »
The original MSRP of my 1990 325ix was over $40,000 in 1990. Geez, no wonder they didn't sell well. The entry level trim of the E46 325xi isn't much more than that, 15 years later.

The Millenia was retailed at over $43,000, and now 10 or so years later, the most expensive model in the current Mazda line up is only $36,000, and with more standard equipment.

Those are the 2 examples that I know. The car makers were make some serious fat coins back then, No?  :)

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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2006, 01:23:55 pm »
The original MSRP of my 1990 325ix was over $40,000 in 1990. Geez, no wonder they didn't sell well. The entry level trim of the E46 325xi isn't much more than that, 15 years later.

The Millenia was retailed at over $43,000, and now 10 or so years later, the most expensive model in the current Mazda line up is only $36,000, and with more standard equipment.

Those are the 2 examples that I know. The car makers were make some serious fat coins back then, No?  :)

Richie Rich in the house.

Well ... as if I actually could afford to buy them new. Unpopular cars means great value at the used car market. They were cheaper than used Honda Civics.  :)

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2006, 05:53:46 am »
In the sept 94, I got a new 94 mazda 323 after taxes at $12,300.  But it was missing a right side mirror and power steering and had vinyl seats.

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2006, 12:32:32 pm »
In the sept 94, I got a new 94 mazda 323 after taxes at $12,300.  But it was missing a right side mirror and power steering and had vinyl seats.

That sounds like an entry level BMW.  :) ... except it would be called Leatherette seats.  ;D

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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2006, 12:40:23 pm »
In the sept 94, I got a new 94 mazda 323 after taxes at $12,300.  But it was missing a right side mirror and power steering and had vinyl seats.

That sounds like an entry level BMW.  :) ... except it would be called Leatherette seats.  ;D

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Re: Car affordability
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2006, 12:57:39 pm »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

Never thought of it that way but it makes sense with my last car: about 55%.

My father-in-law told me of another similar simple 'rule' that applies to new housing: when buying a new place, the final cost shouldn't be more than 5 times your annual salary.

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« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2006, 01:03:10 pm »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

Never thought of it that way but it makes sense with my last car: about 55%.

My father-in-law told me of another similar simple 'rule' that applies to new housing: when buying a new place, the final cost shouldn't be more than 5 times your annual salary.

Using that formula, this is about what I can afford at Current Market Price in Alberta ... as a Non_Timmie_Employee.  :)


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« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2006, 01:29:57 pm »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

Never thought of it that way but it makes sense with my last car: about 55%.

My father-in-law told me of another similar simple 'rule' that applies to new housing: when buying a new place, the final cost shouldn't be more than 5 times your annual salary.

Thats a really interesting entry point, even in Toronto's housing market. Wants add up more to the basic needs and the ratios get out of whack.

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« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2006, 03:14:52 pm »
We took a number of:  Mortgage PI&T should not be more than the SMALLEST NET paycheck per month out of the 4 paychecks we got between us ( leaving out the two "3 pay" months). I do realize that this somewhat limits the amount of housing one can buy BUT it is a safe system should one person of a couple lose their job/have a kid/whatever.

When I first arrived in Canada a bank manager told me that a car should not cost more than 1/3 of ones yearly income repeated every 5 years...3 year loan and two payment free years.  In 1975 it was not easy to find a car that would last that long in Mtl before turning into a heap of rust.
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« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2006, 03:44:04 pm »
I use my dad's formula. Never buy a car worth more than 60% of your annual income.

My Yaris was more than that!  :o ;D :rofl2: