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« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2007, 04:35:26 pm »

GM wins with global strategy
Global sourcing contracts add up to 1 million units

Jason Stein  |  Automotive News / March 19, 2007 - 1:00 am
 
General Motors’ global product development strategy is finally adding up to real savings.

GM executives and supplier sources said the automaker has received sizeable price reductions on some parts and components for its global mid-sized car architecture, internally known as Epsilon 2.

Those reductions -– in some cases as much as 15 percent -– will help GM cut 20 percent to 25 percent out of the development cost of the Epsilon 2 architecture, GM’s largest by volume.

The supplier incentives for those price cuts: Providing parts for up to 1 million vehicles that will be sold globally.

Epsilon 2 will underpin the next-generation Opel Vectra, Saturn Aura, Saab 9-3 and Cadillac BLS. The first vehicles will appear in 2008.

“With our global strategy, this is allowing for significantly more savings than we would have realized in the old system,” GM Vice Chairman Robert Lutz told Automotive News Europe during a presentation tied to the Geneva motor show.

But not all of the savings will go to GM’s bottom line.

GM executives said a substantial part will be eaten up by the costs of meeting new regulatory requirements and adopting fuel-saving technologies. GM is investing substantial sums in technologies such as direct fuel injection and six-speed transmissions, rack-mounted electric steering and other features.

Lutz said GM is seeing the savings on key components -– suspension systems, brakes, seat structures, air-conditioning units, wiper motors and fueling systems.

GM has been trying to better align its global product development since the first Epsilon architecture appeared on the 2002 Vectra. That version of Epsilon was supposed to be capable of global applications. But GM ran into regional issues and slight differences in the platform’s development.

“Now those issues are taken care of and we can source and produce virtually anywhere,” Lutz said.

Karl-Thomas Neumann, CEO of Continental Automotive Systems, said the large global volume opportunities make doing business with GM attractive.

“GM has a global platform and they don’t ask us to supply this brake in Europe,” Neumann told ANE in Geneva. “They say, we engineer this car in Korea and it will be a world platform and we need your supply here and here and here. You have to be global. There is no choice.”

Hans Demant, managing director of Opel, acknowledged that volume is a big driver in getting up to 15 percent reductions on some components for GM’s mid-sized architecture. “The volume really gets suppliers moving on price,” he said.

GM has been steadily pursuing a global purchasing strategy that sources components from fewer suppliers in exchange for big discounts.

Last summer, Bo Andersson, GM’s vice president of purchasing and supply chain management, told ANE global sourcing will allow GM to realize even greater savings on its next-generation of small cars, including the Opel/Vauxhall Astra which is scheduled to launch in 2012.
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« Reply #81 on: March 23, 2007, 12:29:04 pm »

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070323/AUTO01/703230356/1148
GM tries to unplug Volt hype

Sharon Terlep / The Detroit News

General Motors Corp. seized the world's attention in January when it unveiled plans to build the Chevy Volt -- a plug-in hybrid car touted not so much as a mode of transportation but as part of a solution to the nation's energy crisis.

The Volt grabbed headlines, lit up online chat boards and dominated the buzz at the auto show in Detroit.

There's just one problem: The Volt may never get built.

Production depends on advances in battery technology that could be years away. The uncertainty led to intense debate within GM over whether it was wise to show the Volt in Detroit. And now that the world's waiting for GM to deliver what could be the biggest environmental breakthrough so far this century, company officials are actively trying to temper expectations.

The enormity of GM's challenge was evident last week when it called journalists to a backgrounder to explain the technological hurdles facing the Volt project -- and reiterate that it can't guarantee the futuristic car will ever hit the road.

"The pressure is intense," Nick Zielinski, the Volt's chief engineer, said at the event, which attracted more than 100 reporters. "We came out with this idea and now people are saying, 'OK, where is this car. We want it now.' "

The auto industry has disappointed before when it comes to green technology.

DaimlerChrysler AG promised a production fuel-cell vehicle by 2004, but couldn't deliver despite spending $1 billion on the technology. And little came of a $1.5 billion taxpayer-funded effort, called the Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles, to build an 80-miles-per-gallon car. Last year, Ford Motor Co. took an image beating when it backed away from a pledge to put 250,000 hybrids on the road by 2010.

Still, GM's Volt gamble could pay off big for an automaker trying to transform its behind-the-times image. A vehicle loaded with cutting-edge green technology would position GM as an environmental leader and help it compete against foreign rivals that dominate the growing market for Earth-friendly cars and trucks.

The concept Volt is designed with an electric drivetrain and an internal combustion engine that recharges the vehicle's batteries while on the road.

While the range of plug-in cars has typically been no more than 20 to 30 miles on battery power alone, the Volt would have a range of 40 miles, GM says, and drivers wouldn't have to stop every time it needs a charge.

There's just one obstacle.

"All of this is irrelevant until they get a battery pack invented," said Joseph Phillippi of AutoTrends Consulting in Short Hills, N.J. "For a long time, they were out there knocking the idea of a plug-in hybrid. Now they're on board, but, theoretically, GM is still learning."

Remember GM's EV1?

The Volt isn't GM's first foray into electric cars. In the 1990s, the automaker spent $1 billion on its EV1 electric car program, which ended when GM demanded the return of its leased vehicles. The decision drew the ire of environmental groups and EV1 drivers and spawned the unflattering "Who Killed the Electric Car?" documentary.

GM chairman and CEO Rick Wagoner has called killing the EV1 his biggest mistake. For evidence he was right look no further than Japan's Toyota Motor Corp. The maker of the popular Prius hybrid has capitalized on its green image just as more Americans are embracing environmentalism.

With the Volt, GM has a shot at redemption.

"It's a breakthrough of immense magnitude -- potentially one of the two or three most significant game changers that we've seen in a long time," said David Cole, chairman of the Center for Automotive Research in Ann Arbor.

When the time came to unveil plans for the Volt, GM wanted to make a bold statement.

Wagoner began dropping hints about GM's plans in November at the Los Angeles Auto Show, where he listed developing alternative energy sources as one of GM's top priorities. When it debuted in January in Detroit, the Volt generated glowing praise for its striking appearance and the technology behind it.

Shortly after the show, GM launched a "Vote for Volt" Web site, which asks visitors if they think GM should build the Volt and if they would consider buying one. Nearly 440,000 people had cast votes as of Thursday.

With all the attention, though, has come intense and sometimes scathing scrutiny.

Some dismiss the move as a publicity stunt by a company struggling to stay relevant. Others question whether GM was being realistic in pinning its hopes on the uncertain science of battery technology. Still others say GM's Asian rivals are likely to beat it to the punch.

"GM has more of a recent history of failure than of being at the cutting edge," said Bruce Vanden Bergh, a Michigan State University advertising professor.

GM faces a credibility challenge with the American public, Vanden Bergh said.

If the Volt flops, it could do irreparable damage to the company's reputation.

"They'd better make it work," he said, "or they're going to look stupid."

Rival questions strategy

At least one GM rival questions the automaker's strategy.

Nancy Gioia, Ford's director of sustainable mobility technologies and hybrids, said while it is important to showcase innovative research, there is little value in committing to a technology that still generates more questions than it answers and may not even be commercially viable.

That's why Ford's plug-in hybrid was displayed in a corner of its Detroit auto show pavilion, rather than center stage, where GM showcased the Volt.

"If we say we're going to do something," she said. "You're going to see it."

Even GM insiders debated the wisdom of rolling out the Volt without the battery technology needed to power it and some early concerns have been realized. On Capitol Hill, for example, there is a general lack of understanding about how a concept vehicle becomes a production model, Zielinski said. As a result, GM's credibility is in question in some corners.

To deal with skeptics, GM has made public an unprecedented amount of information about a vehicle still in development.

GM Vice Chairman Bob Lutz said this week that GM's strategy is to let people know about any problems early so they don't feel duped should the Volt not succeed, a risk he estimates to be about 10 percent.

"Having said that," he wrote in an e-mail, "I am growingly convinced that we will pull it off."

No matter what GM's strategy, the automaker is bound to take heat, said Cole of the Center for Automotive Research.

"There are a lot of anti-GM skeptics," he said. "It's the penalty that comes with being No. 1."
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« Reply #82 on: March 23, 2007, 12:29:53 pm »

http://www.canadiandriver.com/news/070323-7.htm
March 23, 2007

GM pledges to reduces CO2 emissions by 40 per cent at North American facilities

Detroit, Michigan - General Motors has announced a goal of reducing CO2 emissions from its North American manufacturing facilities by 40 per cent by 2010, based on 2000 levels. The target is part of the company's voluntary partnership in the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's (EPA) Climate Leaders program. The reduction would equal 4.5 million metric tonnes and equate to annual emissions from the power consumed by 432,692 U.S. households.

The Climate Leaders initiative is a voluntary program between industry and government that works with companies to develop long-term comprehensive climate change strategies; companies are challenged to set aggressive, corporate-wide greenhouse gas emissions reduction goals and are required to document and report progress on an annual basis. GM joined the program as a founding member in 2002, when it established a goal to reduce U.S. facility CO2 emissions by 10 per cent by 2005, based on 2000 levels. The company surpassed the target in 2003 with reductions of 11.7 per cent, and to date since 2000, has reduced U.S. facility emissions by 25 per cent.
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« Reply #83 on: March 23, 2007, 01:23:15 pm »

Toyota may have the greenest vehicle at the moment but the cost of owning and driving it will never pay itself back. By the time it comes close to breaking even on the initial cost of purchase you will be replacing the Batteries or scrapping the car as it will be worn out and too expensive to fix.  Smiley
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« Reply #84 on: March 23, 2007, 03:14:26 pm »

the really point of a Green machine is emission , saving the earth, not cost savings
So really it should not matter the mileage you get
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« Reply #85 on: March 23, 2007, 03:54:24 pm »

Until someone else starts paying our mortgage and grocery bills it has to make economic sense as well

I considered a Hybrid but the length of time to recover the premium simply made it not possible(8k-9k a year driver). Now with a provincial rebate to go along with the federal one.... I would have considered Honda's hybrid

the really point of a Green machine is emission , saving the earth, not cost savings
So really it should not matter the mileage you get
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« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2007, 12:21:48 am »

I would like to save money on my fuel bills as well as the next person which would help our clean air programs but not when its going to cost me 3 times as much to own it. If it isen't economicaly feasible to buy and drive a green vehicle then I won't as I will not pay  a fortune to save pennies and never have a breakeven point that makes any sence on any savings. Gas is too much money now to buy let alone pay a heavy fine to just own a small car which won't pay me back. Yes I am only thinking of my own household budget as I have to eat and pay for the roof over my head just like everybody else who drives as well.  Smiley
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« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2007, 01:15:28 am »

Currently the Camry Hybrid is $31,900.  Less $4000 ON prov and fed tax rebates that brings the cost down to $27,900 plus F&PDI.

Included in that car is 8 way power seat, dual AC, plasma cluster, leather trim, smart key and 8 year/160K bumper to bumper on the entire Hybrid system.  Gas mileage is 5.7 or 50 mpg city or highway.  That is very attractive.  Thumbs up

The question still remains; how did Toyota manage to infiltrate the GOV.  Smiley
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« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2007, 01:39:53 am »

Currently the Camry Hybrid is $31,900.  Less $4000 ON prov and fed tax rebates that brings the cost down to $27,900 plus F&PDI.

Included in that car is 8 way power seat, dual AC, plasma cluster, leather trim, smart key and 8 year/160K bumper to bumper on the entire Hybrid system.  Gas mileage is 5.7 or 50 mpg city or highway.  That is very attractive.  Thumbs up

The question still remains; how did Toyota manage to infiltrate the GOV.  Smiley

Gee, that's a good price on the Hybrid.....
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« Reply #89 on: March 24, 2007, 12:02:39 pm »

Provincial rebate on Camry Hybrid is $2000, Federal rebate is $1500.

I would consider Camry Hybrid because of its impressive equipment list and packaging, with the rebates its very very attractive.

Barrie, GM is on the bandwagon as well, Saturn Aura hybrid has been priced in the US, cheaper than the Camry Hybrid, lets see how that works out.
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« Reply #90 on: March 24, 2007, 08:47:09 pm »

Thats good that they are but its not a model that would do my needs but for a lot of famalies it will. Is this the model with the Toyota engine design in it I wonder?  Smiley
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« Reply #91 on: March 24, 2007, 09:39:20 pm »

Clearly spoiling for a fight with Japanese midsize hybrid sedans, Saturn announced on Monday that its new 2007 Aura Green Line Hybrid will carry a starting price of $22,695, including a $650 destination charge. That baseline price significantly undercuts the Honda Accord Hybrid and the Toyota Camry Hybrid. The Aura Green Line Hybrid is on sale now.

The base 2007 Camry Hybrid starts at $26,820, including a $620 destination charge, while the base 2007 Accord Hybrid starts at $31,685, including a $595 destination charge.

The EPA rates the Aura Green Line at 28 mpg in city driving and 35 mpg on the highway. It is equipped with an electric motor linked to a 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The powertrain combination produces 164 horsepower and 159 pound-feet of torque.

The EPA rates the Accord Hybrid at an identical 28 mpg in city driving and 35 mpg on the highway. The hybrid powertrain in the Accord Hybrid includes a 3.0-liter V6 and produces 253 hp and 232 lb-ft of torque. The Camry Hybrid gets 40 mpg in city driving and 38 mpg on the highway, the EPA says. Its hybrid powertrain includes a 2.4-liter four-cylinder and produces 147 hp and 192 lb-ft of torque.

The Kansas City-built Aura won top honors at the 2007 North American Car of the Year competition.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=120024

Camry Hybrid produces 197HP, Saturn Aura Greenline is being called a mild hybrid produces 147hp according to Edmunds.
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« Reply #92 on: March 25, 2007, 02:27:17 am »

Provincial rebate on Camry Hybrid is $2000, Federal rebate is $1500.

I would consider Camry Hybrid because of its impressive equipment list and packaging, with the rebates its very very attractive.

Barrie, GM is on the bandwagon as well, Saturn Aura hybrid has been priced in the US, cheaper than the Camry Hybrid, lets see how that works out.

Federal rebate is $1500.

My bad.  I'll pass that on.  Smiley
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« Reply #93 on: March 25, 2007, 03:08:43 am »

Clearly spoiling for a fight with Japanese midsize hybrid sedans, Saturn announced on Monday that its new 2007 Aura Green Line Hybrid will carry a starting price of $22,695, including a $650 destination charge. That baseline price significantly undercuts the Honda Accord Hybrid and the Toyota Camry Hybrid. The Aura Green Line Hybrid is on sale now.

The base 2007 Camry Hybrid starts at $26,820, including a $620 destination charge, while the base 2007 Accord Hybrid starts at $31,685, including a $595 destination charge.

The EPA rates the Aura Green Line at 28 mpg in city driving and 35 mpg on the highway. It is equipped with an electric motor linked to a 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. The powertrain combination produces 164 horsepower and 159 pound-feet of torque.

The EPA rates the Accord Hybrid at an identical 28 mpg in city driving and 35 mpg on the highway. The hybrid powertrain in the Accord Hybrid includes a 3.0-liter V6 and produces 253 hp and 232 lb-ft of torque. The Camry Hybrid gets 40 mpg in city driving and 38 mpg on the highway, the EPA says. Its hybrid powertrain includes a 2.4-liter four-cylinder and produces 147 hp and 192 lb-ft of torque.

The Kansas City-built Aura won top honors at the 2007 North American Car of the Year competition.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=120024

Camry Hybrid produces 197HP, Saturn Aura Greenline is being called a mild hybrid produces 147hp according to Edmunds.

Clearly spoiling for a fight with Japanese midsize hybrid sedans,

I hardly think so.  Huh  This so called "mild" hybrid system is the same system used in the Silverado.  It blows.  Essentially the engine has a generator attached to the side of it in place of the alternator.  See pic.  Smiley

Aura Green Line Hybrid will carry a starting price of $22,695,

It gets 28/35 US mpg.  Huh  A normal gas Camry gets 24/33 US mpg and starts at $18,500. Do the math ppl.  Tongue

The Camry Hybrid gets 40 mpg in city driving and 38 mpg on the highway, the EPA says. Its hybrid power train includes a 2.4-liter four-cylinder and produces 147 hp and 192 lb-ft of torque

Very poorly researched article.  The Camry has a TOTAL HP rating of 187.  Roll Eyes

GM needs to come up with a real effort, not this half *ssed stuff they are so good at; using clever terminology like "mild" (actually it's called MICRO)  Roll Eyes  in attempt to sell something that it is not.  Smiley 

The hybrid technology used will not be the "full" hybrid used by Toyota and Ford, nor the "assist" hybrid used by Honda; rather, it will be more similar to the "micro" or "mild" hybrid system found in the GM Silverado pickup truck. Basically, the car will be fitted with a bigger starter electric motor and a 36-Volt NiMH battery. This will allow it to stop the engine when the vehicle stops moving, and to restart it immediately when the driver removes his/her foot from the brake pedal (a system similar to what can be found in the Citroën C2 Stop & Start, among others). Regenerative braking will help recharge the batteries. Also, and that's the main difference with most "Belt Alternator Starter system", the electric starter motor will be able to "provide a small degree of traction assistance".

The Aura uses the same hybrid powertrain as the Saturn VUE Greenline hybrid: a 2.4-liter Ecotec engine with a Belt-Alternator-Starter (BAS) system augmented with a 36-Volt NiMH battery pack.

 
The hybrid accessory drive. The dual tensioner assembly that controls the motoring and generating loads is patent pending. Click to enlarge.
Functionally, the VUE hybrid system offers start-stop and regenerative braking—features expected in a simple Belt Alternator Starter system. GM, however, developed a dual tensioner assembly for the hybrid accessory drive (the motor/generator package) that will transfer a small amount of torque to the drive system for very brief periods of time.

The assembly combines an hydraulic strut tensioner and a friction-damped rotary tensioner on a common pivoting arm to the control the bi-directional loads (motoring and generating).

This assistance takes three forms: electrically motored creep at startup, light power assist during acceleration, and light electric mode during deceleration.

The system consists of six elements:

The electric motor/generator unit that replaces the alternator, and is capable of 156 Nm of auto-start torque;

Engine-coolant cooled power electronics that control the motor/generator unit and provide 12-volt vehicle accessory power;

A Cobasys NiMHax 36-Volt NiMH hybrid battery pack capable of delivering and receiving more than 10 kW of peak power;

An engine control module;

An engine accessory drive with new, dual-tensioner assembly and cord belt that enables transfer of motoring and generating torque;

Hybrid-enabled Hydra-Matic 4T45-E electronically controlled four-speed automatic transaxle that includes an auxiliary oil pump and unique hybrid controls


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« Reply #94 on: March 25, 2007, 03:11:42 am »

Thats good that they are but its not a model that would do my needs but for a lot of famalies it will. Is this the model with the Toyota engine design in it I wonder?  Smiley

Your thinking about the Saturn Vue.  They were HONDA motors.  It was the only reason ppl bought them ... even filled with DEXCOOL.   Smiley
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« Reply #95 on: March 25, 2007, 01:58:30 pm »

Aura Green Line Hybrid will carry a starting price of $22,695,

It gets 28/35 US mpg.  Huh  A normal gas Camry gets 24/33 US mpg and starts at $18,500. Do the math ppl.  Tongue

The Camry Hybrid gets 40 mpg in city driving and 38 mpg on the highway, the EPA says.

(1)  Is the Aura hybrid comparatively-equipped to a stripped Camry CE?  I doubt it.  Thus, price comparisons are pointless.

(2)  The old EPA numbers were flawed in numerous respects, and have been replaced.  The four-cylinder automatic Camry is now rated at 21 mpg city, 30 mpg highway.  The Camry hybrid is now rated at 33 city, 34 highway.  I'm curious whether the Aura Green Line's 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway is under the new system or the old.  The article calls it a 2007, but neither the EPA nor Saturn has it on its webpage as such.  Besides, if it's just being announced now, it's most likely a 2008, and the fuel economy would thus be measured under the 2008 standard.
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« Reply #96 on: March 25, 2007, 10:52:18 pm »


(1)  Is the Aura hybrid comparatively-equipped to a stripped Camry CE?  I doubt it.  Thus, price comparisons are pointless.

(2)  The old EPA numbers were flawed in numerous respects, and have been replaced.  The four-cylinder automatic Camry is now rated at 21 mpg city, 30 mpg highway.  The Camry hybrid is now rated at 33 city, 34 highway.  I'm curious whether the Aura Green Line's 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway is under the new system or the old.  The article calls it a 2007, but neither the EPA nor Saturn has it on its webpage as such.  Besides, if it's just being announced now, it's most likely a 2008, and the fuel economy would thus be measured under the 2008 standard.

Mitlov; what is the one thing post graduate students learn first off?

REFERENCES  Roll Eyes  Bang

Phrases like: "I doubt it" or "I'm curious whether" or "it's most likely" don't mean sh*t.

Try FACTS or that thing in graduate school they call a REFERENCE.  Smiley

The Aura "MICRO" Hybrid has no business case.  But if one must have, I highly recommended the SUPER EXTENDED warranty.  Smiley

And BTW, 147 HP in a car the size of an Aura is totally inadequate.  A Civic has 140HP.  Roll Eyes  It's just another example of the endless application of the GM Parts Bin.
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« Reply #97 on: March 26, 2007, 12:09:42 am »


(1)  Is the Aura hybrid comparatively-equipped to a stripped Camry CE?  I doubt it.  Thus, price comparisons are pointless.

(2)  The old EPA numbers were flawed in numerous respects, and have been replaced.  The four-cylinder automatic Camry is now rated at 21 mpg city, 30 mpg highway.  The Camry hybrid is now rated at 33 city, 34 highway.  I'm curious whether the Aura Green Line's 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway is under the new system or the old.  The article calls it a 2007, but neither the EPA nor Saturn has it on its webpage as such.  Besides, if it's just being announced now, it's most likely a 2008, and the fuel economy would thus be measured under the 2008 standard.

Mitlov; what is the one thing post graduate students learn first off?

REFERENCES  Roll Eyes  Bang

Phrases like: "I doubt it" or "I'm curious whether" or "it's most likely" don't mean sh*t.

Try FACTS or that thing in graduate school they call a REFERENCE.  Smiley

You never provide references.  Besides, I did provide evidence why this car is a 2008.  Read again.

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And BTW, 147 HP in a car the size of an Aura is totally inadequate.  A Civic has 140HP.  Roll Eyes  It's just another example of the endless application of the GM Parts Bin.

Big words from someone who drives a 158 hp midsize sedan.  11 hp makes all the difference, huh?
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« Reply #98 on: March 26, 2007, 12:22:28 am »


(1)  Is the Aura hybrid comparatively-equipped to a stripped Camry CE?  I doubt it.  Thus, price comparisons are pointless.

(2)  The old EPA numbers were flawed in numerous respects, and have been replaced.  The four-cylinder automatic Camry is now rated at 21 mpg city, 30 mpg highway.  The Camry hybrid is now rated at 33 city, 34 highway.  I'm curious whether the Aura Green Line's 28 mpg city, 35 mpg highway is under the new system or the old.  The article calls it a 2007, but neither the EPA nor Saturn has it on its webpage as such.  Besides, if it's just being announced now, it's most likely a 2008, and the fuel economy would thus be measured under the 2008 standard.

Mitlov; what is the one thing post graduate students learn first off?

REFERENCES  Roll Eyes  Bang

Phrases like: "I doubt it" or "I'm curious whether" or "it's most likely" don't mean sh*t.

Try FACTS or that thing in graduate school they call a REFERENCE.  Smiley

You never provide references.  Besides, I did provide evidence why this car is a 2008.  Read again.

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And BTW, 147 HP in a car the size of an Aura is totally inadequate.  A Civic has 140HP.  Roll Eyes  It's just another example of the endless application of the GM Parts Bin.

Big words from someone who drives a 158 hp midsize sedan.  11 hp makes all the difference, huh?

Besides, I did provide evidence why this car is a 2008

If that is your example of evidence then think about changing jobs.  Smiley

Big words from someone who drives a 158 hp midsize sedan.  11 hp makes all the difference, huh?

At 158 hp every single unit of HP makes a difference.  So does 5 forward gears  ROFL
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« Reply #99 on: March 28, 2007, 02:13:33 pm »

UAW calls Delphi Corp.'s latest wage offer "pathetic"

Louis Aguilar / The Detroit News

A United Auto Workers official today called Delphi Corp.'s latest proposed post-bankruptcy wage offer "pathetic" and confirmed the union rejected the deal on Monday.

"It was far short of anything we can take to our membership," said UAW Vice President Cal Rapson, who is the union's chief bargainer with Delphi and its former parent General Motors Corp.

UAW President Ron Gettelfinger said Tuesday during the first day of the union's bargaining convention at Cobo Center that the UAW was prepared to strike the Troy-based parts supplier if Delphi convinces the bankruptcy court to let it void existing labor contracts.

A $3.4 billion private investment that would let Delphi emerge from Chapter 11 bankruptcy as a new company with new owners hinges on hammering out restructured labor agreements. Delphi is in negotiations with GM and a group of investors led by Cerberus Capital Management LP and Appaloosa Management LP to reach a labor deal. But the investors could pull out of the recapitalization deal if a wage-cutting deal is not achieved soon.

Rapson declined to specify the union's objections to the rejected proposal.

"It was wages, benefits, the amount of jobs, the job security, everything," he said. "We took that agreement, we took it to our actuaries, thoroughly reviewed it, sat down with Ron (Gettelfinger) Monday. And we rejected it."

Delphi originally asked for a more than 60 percent wage cut, which would drop its workers pay to $10 to $12 an hour.

Rapson also expressed outrage that the bankruptcy court recently approved $37 million in executive retention bonuses even as the wage cuts were being proposed to the UAW.

"Same guys who put them in Chapter 11 and they say they got to be retained," he said. "And they are dividing up that kind of money while they are asking workers to take big cuts or lose jobs completely.

"You know its $150 million plus already in legal fees. It's just outrageous to us all this money being spent this way rather than putting it into the products, put it into the jobs."

Delphi officials could not immediately be reached for comment.

People close to the negotiations say that more talks were scheduled for later this week.
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