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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2006, 02:10:02 am »

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My advice to Nissan is to bring back the Micra to North America to show a true Nissan sub-compact, sell the Versa as a 'tweener' model between sub and compact (don't want teenie-weenie, don't need compact), and please reintroduce the Sentra wagon.

My thoughts exactly.  Other than the two seat Smart, there hasn't been a real subcompact sold in Canada since the Metro
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« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2006, 08:27:30 am »

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My advice to Nissan is to bring back the Micra to North America to show a true Nissan sub-compact, sell the Versa as a 'tweener' model between sub and compact (don't want teenie-weenie, don't need compact), and please reintroduce the Sentra wagon.

My thoughts exactly.  Other than the two seat Smart, there hasn't been a real subcompact sold in Canada since the Metro
True enough - bring back the Micra. It's available in some very sweet models and levels of kit in Europe and the UK. The hatch may look a bit quirky and perhaps even dated, but the Cabriolet is really quite attractive for what it is.




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« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2006, 11:09:31 am »

My thoughts exactly.  Other than the two seat Smart, there hasn't been a real subcompact sold in Canada since the Metro

What do you consider a "real" subcompact? The Echo hatch was actually shorter than the Swift/Metro, and the Yaris is only 0.2" inches longer. If you are focusing on weight, I might well agree.
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« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2006, 03:08:08 pm »


Yep - test drove it with a 6 speed .. it seems ok.  The interior is nice.  The exterior is .. well I guess its a matter of opinion.  When I first seem it I thought it looked like an older renault.

By the way, about half of the technology package is included in the US version of the Versa.  It seems Nissan is trying to leverage the upgraded audio to get us to by bluetooth + ipod nonsense stuff.

The car is ok .. but the biggest marks are awarded for having the closest price when compared to the US MRSP.  It's only about $1000 - $1500 more.

If your negotiating I'd try to get the upgraded audio for free - it is in the US.

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« Reply #64 on: October 16, 2006, 05:54:38 pm »

What do you consider a "real" subcompact? The Echo hatch was actually shorter than the Swift/Metro, and the Yaris is only 0.2" inches longer. If you are focusing on weight, I might well agree.

Yes, weight is a big issue, and so are width and height.  These dimentions have major fuel economy implications - you're not going to get 60 MPG with a car that weighs over a ton (unless it is a hybrid), and aerodynamic drag is directly proportional to frontal area.  Length to me is the least important dimention to keep under control.  Why make a car wide enough to put 2.5 people in the back seat?  Either go all the way to "compact" size and have 3 full seats or narrow it down to 2 so it fits into the 3/4 parking spaces that pop up everywhere when the parking lot lines get covered with snow.  As for weight, the Echo hatchback was almost 50% heavier than the Metro, and just as heavy as the Echo sedan.  Newer hatchbacks are artificially short due to the near zero rear overhang that seems to be the modern styling fashion.  This kills the "small on the outside, big on the inside" advantage of hatchbacks.  If the Echo hatchback was made by sloping the rear window of the sedan more instead of lopping off the trunk it would have been much more practical with little or no downside.  The 1989-1994 Metro could carry 4 people or 2 people and a lot of stuff comfortably while tipping the scale at only 750kg.  You could even fit about 20 2x4s in one and still close the hatch.  My wife and I brought home our queen size bed in and on top of a Metro.  Of course, the ultimate in space design has to be the original Mini - why oh why did BMW have to go and turn it into a much bigger and more expensive high end car?
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« Reply #65 on: October 16, 2006, 06:04:55 pm »

BTW, the heaviest Echo hatch was 995 kg curb weight, hardly "50%" more than the metro.

I owned 2 Ausin Minis (1 a Cooper) and a 1991 Suzuki Swift. I consider my Yaris 5-door to be a "real" subcompact. Your mileage obviously varies, but I do agree that it would be nice to see some cars with less "flab". The Cooper weighed in at 1485 lb (675 kg).  Grin
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« Reply #66 on: October 16, 2006, 07:40:11 pm »

My parents in Salmon Arm just ordered themselves a Versa, should have it in a month or so. A red SL with the CVT.
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