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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2006, 11:13:13 pm » |
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That car is especially stunning in black. Too bad no manual transmission is available. The Mustang is the only alternative for shifting gears yourself. Watch out for the gas guzzler tax in Ontario... |
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« Reply #2 on: September 06, 2006, 01:35:14 am » |
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God that car needs a manual. It would be the ultimate semi-affordable ultra-high-performance family sedan. |
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« Reply #3 on: September 06, 2006, 09:02:26 am » |
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No Manual transmission? WHAT!? |
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« Reply #4 on: September 06, 2006, 09:26:54 am » |
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« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2006, 09:56:33 am » |
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How many AMG models come with manual? What about the M5, manual tranny available yet? Don't get me wrong, I think every car is better with a manual, but considering that they'd sell maybe two with manual tranny...
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« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2006, 10:24:55 am » |
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Both the M5 and AMG's are 100,000+ automobiles. This car is significantly cheaper. The automatic manual modes of those cars (while I'm no expert) are likely far more sophisticated than this one. A friend of mine has an M5 and when it's in manual mode it actually shifts faster than any manual transmission could be. You still get to use the traditional h pattern if you want to though. it's also very complex and expensive to repair. It's admittedly very nice (best of both automatic and manual when you want it) but I don't think you'll have the same experience with this auto/stick manual mode. I haven't driven either so that's just my impression of the auto/stick manual mode vehicles I've driven. (Mazda/Hyundai)
An automatic transmission with Auto/Stick manual mode feature is a bit of a compromise to be sure. Automatic would be nice for hilly/stop-and-go but I think it's a mistake to not at least offer a manual transmission in a car that is targeted to enthusiasts. Perhaps they're targeting older lazy enthusiasts! |
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« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2006, 11:13:38 am » |
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The HEMI SRT vehicles roar fabulously at open throttle. Love 'em! |
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« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2006, 11:23:36 am » |
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It looks bada@#!! And with the 425-hp it's got the engine to back up the looks. |
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« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2006, 11:37:26 am » |
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No Manual transmission? WHAT!?
Today's electronic auto trannies can often be faster shifting than a manual. In a drag race, the difference between a manual (even in an excellant driver's hands) and the 5 speed auto, is only fractions of a second. With a big car like the SRT8, the auto makes sense to me. |
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2006, 11:45:03 am » |
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A friend of mine has an M5 and when it's in manual mode it actually shifts faster than any manual transmission could be. You still get to use the traditional h pattern if you want to though. it's also very complex and expensive to repair. What do you mean he's got the H shifter? The new M5? I didn't think the H gate was there anymore.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2006, 11:51:07 am » |
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There are far more attractive options from an automotive enthusiast perspective in the $52k range than a mindless point and shoot slushbox. |
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2006, 11:51:26 am » |
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No Manual transmission? WHAT!?
Today's electronic auto trannies can often be faster shifting than a manual. In a drag race, the difference between a manual (even in an excellant driver's hands) and the 5 speed auto, is only fractions of a second. With a big car like the SRT8, the auto makes sense to me. First time trying out this quote thing - hope it works! I know that manuals are just as fast (if not faster) than manual transmission in the hands of most... Myself included I'm sure. I also think it makes sense to offer an automatic transmission. I just think it would have been a good idea to also offer it in a manual. I don't know the financial considerations involved in making this decision - I would have thought they'd probably sell at least a few manuals if it was offered. If they could do so with little cost - then why not. If that's not possible then this transmission choice makes financial good sense since it's likely what they'll probably sell more automatics anyway. I've only recently started driving manual transmission cars after many years of automatics and I really like the additional control it provides and the fun factor of course. Sometimes in stop and go (particularly on a large hill) it would be nice to have the convenience of an automatic. But I'm willing to sacrifice that convenience for the enjoyment I get the other 90% of the time I'm driving. |
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2006, 12:04:19 pm » |
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A friend of mine has an M5 and when it's in manual mode it actually shifts faster than any manual transmission could be. You still get to use the traditional h pattern if you want to though. it's also very complex and expensive to repair. What do you mean he's got the H shifter? The new M5? I didn't think the H gate was there anymore. Sorry - it's an M3 not an M5, and no it's not brand new. It's a few years old. It's the SMG transmission. I know you can shift with the paddles, manually, or you can put it in automatic mode. I was under the impression you had the option to shift in a standard h pattern... and didn't have to shift in an up/down pattern, as with many automatic/manual systems. I didn't get to drive it unfortunately.  So I could be wrong and you may have to shift in the up/down pattern. I read CdnDriver's review of the SMG tranny in the M3 and couldn't prove or disprove what I said. |
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2006, 12:06:29 pm » |
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« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2006, 12:53:49 pm » |
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« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2006, 01:08:25 pm » |
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I like to make things perfectly clear so there is no confusion on my point of view.  Dude, there's no confusion when you speak....just look at your avatar. 
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« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2006, 01:39:21 pm » |
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There are far more attractive options from an automotive enthusiast perspective in the $52k range than a mindless point and shoot slushbox.
 The Charger has little to no appeal to me. In fact, none of DC's products do, save for the Viper and the SRT-4. |
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« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2006, 03:24:03 pm » |
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Nothing from DC interests me....For the money, I can find a nicer car for the same price.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2006, 03:07:41 am » |
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There are far more attractive options from an automotive enthusiast perspective in the $52k range than a mindless point and shoot slushbox.
Depends where the automotive enthusiast is in life I suppose. If you have a family, need lots of space, RWD, and lots of power for a reasonable price, this is the car to have. With big Brembos, fat tires, and decent suspension, it's not a one dimensional car either. It's main competitors like the CTS-V, S4, C55 are much more expensive. It's only big fault is fuel economy but like they say, you have to pay to play.... |
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