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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #20 on: March 24, 2006, 05:37:45 pm »
You should look for vehicle with a proper transfer case, where you can lock it into 4wd.  A low range would be ideal but not necessary for "rally" type off-roading.

Trying to make do with the Escape or others like it will just get you frustrated.   :banghead:  So do not waste your money on it, save up and get something that will do what you want it to do.  Lots of good suggestions in the above posts on suitable vehicles.
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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #21 on: March 24, 2006, 07:29:19 pm »
Here is your new ride    :o  :rofl:   :rofl2:

(I know you have already seen it but maybe the others have not)


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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2006, 02:25:07 am »
But here's a totally different take on this.

I drove a '79 Impala station wagon as far up BC logging roads as I could, about 30 times per year, for the 11 years I had it.  It had a positraction rear differential, and I added air shocks to the rear end, so it didn't have that tail-dragging problem that made these cars the butt of ridicule.  As long as it had clearance, people couldn't believe where it could go.  If the roads weren't too rough, we could travel faster than 4x4's due to the soft suspension soaking things up.  With a huge engine it never overheated and breezed up long dusty steep hills, on hot days with 6 people and their gear in air-conditioned comfort.  With lousy engine braking, brake jobs were more frequent than usual, and sometimes we'd have to stop partway down a 4000' descent to cool the brakes.  It crossed the Hurley many times, including the original road.  Mt. Samson, Lizzie Lake, Silvertip, Black Tusk Microwave, - it would be interesting to add up the vertical that car did.  But then they started digging really deep ditches in the logging roads, and a Pathfinder replaced the wagon.

However, although the car wasn't capable of stuff as rough as a 4x4 could handle, I'd say the challenges were the same - getting it as far as it could go with as little damage as possible.  Every vehicle has its limits.  In fact, "off-roading" is a misnomer since most vehicles wouldn't get 10 feet off a road in most parts of BC.  It's possible that getting the wagon many of the places we took it was more satisfying than if we'd had a more rugged vehicle.  On occasion, usually in snow, it would make it farther than supposedly better vehicles.  Now, that was satisfying. 

So what I'm saying is that as long as you don't expect to go everywhere a lifted Jeep can go, using the Escape on old logging roads could be just as rewarding.  The challenge can be what we accomplish relative to what we have, rather than who can get farthest up which road.  Plus you've got 'yer daily driver.

If you wanted to up the ante a bit, you could start by getting aftermarket or custom skid plates, perhaps air shocks for the back end, or some sort of a minor lift kit.  If the clearance allows, which I doubt, you could get bigger tires.  If you're taking an infant along, you'll want some way to call for help.

If anyone thinks a lift kit for an Escape is a joke, click on this:
http://www.autotrucktoys.com/escape/Ford-Escape-Lift-Kits-C352.aspx
http://www.autotrucktoys.com/escape/Ford-Escape-Skid-Plates-C393.aspx

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2006, 02:46:14 am »
I'm gonna agree with the previous poster, the Escape will probably be sufficient for most of the logging/forest service roads around BC. Try searching some of the Escape based forums for ideas for modifications.

http://www.escape-central.com/
http://www.escape-central.com/
etc.

If you want to do more hard-core offroading, do what other here suggest, find an older 4x4 or look into some of the importers of Japanese vehicles, I've seen some RHD Cruisers with low km going for decent prices.

Mike.

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2006, 12:17:34 pm »
Just be aware that doing a suspension lift on a vehicle with independent suspension (the Escape has that at both ends) will result in significant wear on the CV joints, so be prepared for increased maintenance on those.

Here is a discussion on lifting Escape's:

http://www.escape-central.com/1forum/showthread.php?s=c316b22ea2374ed5393bfcac41575ff6&threadid=19001

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2006, 01:11:41 pm »
Is it possible to do a body lift?

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2006, 01:38:08 pm »
In order to do a body lift the vehicle must have a proper full frame.   ;)

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #27 on: March 27, 2006, 01:48:17 pm »
Hmm  >.."Modifying an ESCAPE"....wait till the GUARDS are ASLEEP..... :P :popo: :fall:
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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #28 on: March 27, 2006, 01:49:54 pm »
In order to do a body lift the vehicle must have a proper full frame.   ;)

Silly me  :-[

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2006, 02:56:17 pm »
Is it possible to do a body lift?

That was asked on that Escape suspension lift thread I posted as well.

No lifts on uni-body type vehicles, like the Escape, 96-04 Pathfinders and ALL Subaru's   ;D

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2006, 07:04:16 pm »
You guys have been SO helpful!

As for the CV joints...I'm no stranger to increased maintenance. When I had my 98 Chev I went through U-Joints like crazy. It's a high-cost hobby, but one that is well worth it. And, as far as I'm concerned, a heck of a lot more fun than sitting around playing video games or whatnot.

That's dirt cheap for the lift...I paid an upwards of three thousand dollars!

As for the body lift....what a waste of money.

Thanks, everyone!

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #31 on: March 27, 2006, 10:39:24 pm »
Is it possible to do a body lift?

I'm glad I didn't say that. :)

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #32 on: March 27, 2006, 10:52:41 pm »
I'm glad I didn't say that. :)

It is amazing how many ask that though, even for the R50 Pathfinder.  Even when told no, can not be done, they persist asking costs, benefits, issues etc.   :banghead:

At least Snowman dropped it after he was given the answer.   ;D   :stick:

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #33 on: March 27, 2006, 11:42:50 pm »
It comes right back to having another 4 whl drive truck with a full frame to go out and play this way. The small Ford you currently have is probably very good for the around town purpose you have for it but to do the real off roading heavy duty stuff brings you back to a full sized vehicle with a frame. You can always build one up slowly like last time you had a p/u. I knew you would miss it a while ago and advised you the way I did.  :)

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #34 on: March 28, 2006, 04:29:44 am »
I'm glad I didn't say that. :)

I only drove "real" trucks and SUV’s. :)

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Re: Modifying an Escape...
« Reply #35 on: March 28, 2006, 05:14:49 pm »
I kick myself almost every day when I think about how I sold my truck.  :banghead: It would almost be paid off by now!

Oh well...I can't go back.