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Are Echo rusting out?
« on: February 17, 2006, 05:18:58 pm »
Are Echo rusting out in Canada?That unbelievable
Toyota had to give out free rusting proofing.
Now this would be a car to stay away from
http://www.echodrivers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5553&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=recall&start=0
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2006, 05:21:44 pm »
Wasn't there also a problem with their floors where water would get in, or something like that?

They may be reliable, but you get what you pay for...
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2006, 05:50:16 pm »
To answer your question, NO!!! It is a preventative measure only. A couple of cases of surface rust inder the driver's floor mat were reported, so a recall campaign was run on possibly affected cars to keep any problems for occuring. You're statement is absurd in the extreme!!  :P
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2006, 06:08:47 pm »
Absurd is not the word, it is more of a preventive measure than anything else.  They took the carpeting out of mine and the floor was spotless as is the rest of the car, they treated it and it's going to be good for a very long time.  Find me a company that takes care of their client this way.  They called us from Cornwall and we did not even buy the car there, they asked us "did you get a letter from Toyota?" we answered no and that was because we had moved.  They told us "bring it in we'll drive you to work" I'll never forget that level of service from this dealership.  So Shnak you say you get what you pay for, hey hey ya right!
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2006, 06:32:15 pm »
It's pretty rare that you see bottoms of cars rot like this... Echo's were/are built on the cheap side... you know, so that Toyota can maintain their high profits while keeping their selling prices competitive... they have to cut somewhere...  ;)
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2006, 06:32:58 pm »
Quote from: Shnak on February 17, 2006, 05:21:44 pm
They may be reliable, but you get what you pay for...
People are getting extra protection from a reputable car manufacture, so yes they are getting what they paid for, someone who stands by what they make/sell.  Good on Toyota.   :thumbup:
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2006, 07:01:59 pm »
Quote from: Trainman on February 17, 2006, 06:32:58 pm
Quote from: Shnak on February 17, 2006, 05:21:44 pm
They may be reliable, but you get what you pay for...
People are getting extra protection from a reputable car manufacture, so yes they are getting what they paid for, someone who stands by what they make/sell.  Good on Toyota.   :thumbup:

 :iagree: I would like the big 3 do that

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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2006, 07:24:14 pm »
Quote from: Snowman on February 17, 2006, 07:01:59 pm
Quote from: Trainman on February 17, 2006, 06:32:58 pm
Quote from: Shnak on February 17, 2006, 05:21:44 pm
They may be reliable, but you get what you pay for...
People are getting extra protection from a reputable car manufacture, so yes they are getting what they paid for, someone who stands by what they make/sell.  Good on Toyota.   :thumbup:

 :iagree: I would like the big 3 do that



 :iagree: That's why I was willing to pay a bit more.  ;D
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2006, 08:10:41 pm »
I would like to see VW stand behind their cars and correct their electrical glitches once and for all.  It's such an embarrassment to watch a car that price going down the road with either a burnt headlight or tailight.  Please VW get it together!  BTW Shnak don't blow it out of proportion, no Echo with rotted floors but maybe a few spots.
« Last Edit: February 17, 2006, 08:12:54 pm by xtrail1 »
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2006, 08:48:12 pm »
Quote from: xtrail1 on February 17, 2006, 08:10:41 pm
I would like to see VW stand behind their cars and correct their electrical glitches once and for all.  It's such an embarrassment to watch a car that price going down the road with either a burnt headlight or tailight.  Please VW get it together!  BTW Shnak don't blow it out of proportion, no Echo with rotted floors but maybe a few spots.

I was waiting for someone to mention that.
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2006, 09:14:47 am »
VW's are otherwise very desirable cars.  A friend has a Golf TDI, she loves it but the electrical repairs, sensors etc. are just to much.
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2006, 10:11:07 am »
Quote from: xtrail1 on February 18, 2006, 09:14:47 am
VW's are otherwise very desirable cars.  A friend has a Golf TDI, she loves it but the electrical repairs, sensors etc. are just to much.

I would agree with you on all accounts but for the price of them they should be more durable.With the TDI you have to put miles on them to get the fuel benefits.They are great driving cars.

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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2006, 03:17:00 pm »
That's crazy!   :o

Look at the pictures from the 2001 echo on this page http://www.echodrivers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5553&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=recall&start=75
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2006, 03:31:32 pm »
Quote from: sixer on February 18, 2006, 03:17:00 pm
That's crazy!   :o

Look at the pictures from the 2001 echo on this page http://www.echodrivers.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5553&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=recall&start=75

That's crazy!

That's not so crazy for car's that have wet carpeting 24/7.

What is crazy is puny the hardware that actually holds the seats in place (not welded rails).  You pay for what you get in super econo cars.   My 88 Jeep is like that.  On severe impacts the seats rails rip out of the floor. ::) :P

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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2006, 04:03:36 pm »
Quit hanging' around with the WRONG DEMOCRATIC CROWD!!!!!! 8) ::) :P
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2006, 04:58:26 pm »
Does it mention how the water enters the car to this?

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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2006, 05:58:06 pm »
Quote from: redroadster on February 18, 2006, 04:58:26 pm
Does it mention how the water enters the car to this?

Andrew

On people's boots, shoes, etc in the form of snow which then melts.  ::)

Please note that Toytech said that the only bad ones he's seen have been Ontario cars - lots of salt. The Sak cars show little or no rust even after 5 years.
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #17 on: February 18, 2006, 06:01:21 pm »
Quote from: AVToller on February 18, 2006, 05:58:06 pm
Quote from: redroadster on February 18, 2006, 04:58:26 pm
Does it mention how the water enters the car to this?

Andrew

On people's boots, shoes, etc in the form of snow which then melts.  ::)

Please note that Toytech said that the only bad ones he's seen have been Ontario cars - lots of salt. The Sak cars show little or no rust even after 5 years.

Then I guess you should stay away from any  that are in Ontario. Because they just lay down the salt here
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #18 on: February 18, 2006, 07:23:04 pm »
Quote from: redroadster on February 18, 2006, 10:11:07 am
Quote from: xtrail1 on February 18, 2006, 09:14:47 am
VW's are otherwise very desirable cars.  A friend has a Golf TDI, she loves it but the electrical repairs, sensors etc. are just to much.

I would agree with you on all accounts but for the price of them they should be more durable.With the TDI you have to put miles on them to get the fuel benefits.They are great driving cars.

Andrew

I get the benefits of my TDI every single time I push the accelerator, thank you very much.
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Re: Are Echo rusting out?
« Reply #19 on: February 18, 2006, 07:39:19 pm »
Then I guess you should stay away from any  that are in Ontario. Because they just lay down the salt here

That goes for any old model pickup or car in my region..  Jeeps are really bad for it.  Without fail the driver's side front floor pan is usually the one that has the holes.  Now some cars have plastic floor pan liners.
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