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One of a Few Toys...
« on: February 04, 2006, 09:53:45 am »
Picked her up late this fall: '04 MazdaSpeed Miata, 180HP 2L DOHC turbo intercooled.

I have since upgraded to Vishnu Stage Zero+, increasing power to 230WHP, as measured duringdyno tuning.  It's a fun little car, especially @ 2,400lbs  She runs the quarter in 13.1 @ 101MPH.... Right now I am looking for traction aids, as a 60' time in the 2's is really hurting my ET....  :-\
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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2006, 09:55:32 am »
BTW, picture was taken at a show any shine up north, so she's a little dusty...  :-[

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2006, 10:30:08 am »
Nice JD, you should auto-x or track!  More fun than drag :P


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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2006, 10:37:24 am »
I will be auto-x'ing it.  I simply did drag to get an idea of the performance difference the upgrades made.  Plus I am still a bit of a drag (racing) lover, as I used to drag my Supra!

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2006, 10:45:12 am »
How much $ to upgrade that turbo?  That's the bonus of turbo's stock, easy gains.

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2006, 12:30:37 pm »
Beautiful car...  Mazdaspeed Miata has to be one of my favourites.

Very nice.

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2006, 12:31:59 pm »
Nice seeing Drag Queens gettin' IT ON........... :-*


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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2006, 12:32:58 pm »
I know you've modded this one, but isn't a stock Mazdaspeed Miata at 170hp?

Very sharp car, enjoy.  ;)
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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2006, 04:22:06 pm »
Looks good!  Did you replace the chicklet sized intercooler or is that the next upgrade to come?
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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2006, 06:17:55 pm »
JD how much faster is your car compared to a jr supercharged one? I have a boosted 99 but would prefer to have the factory turbo for reliability.There is a few used mazdaspeeds available in the autotrader.
Yes i heard the Vishnu upgrade makes quite a difference while not altering the car that much.

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2006, 07:23:56 pm »
Very nice looking car.
That's faster than my monster :o :o
Still running the stock clutch?
A group of Miata owners go for 'tours' each year.  One of the guys has a 2004 Mazdaspeed.  Even stock it moves pretty good.
He's thinking of upgrades too.
I'd better watch out  ;D

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2006, 07:29:38 pm »
I am surprised it beats your Monster 84 as I do beleive you are running much more HP then that with yours. I know the V8 weighs more but the hp difference should offset that if still not beat this time in the 1/4  mile I would think.  :)

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2006, 10:28:51 pm »
That is amazing car  8)

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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2006, 03:44:37 pm »
I know you've modded this one, but isn't a stock Mazdaspeed Miata at 170hp?

ovr50,

Indeed I made a mistake in my original post, which I have correct - Stock is 180HP (not 170, that's the new MX-5's stock HP).  However, as I am sure 84im can attest, the Miata crowd is very ... obsessive about their cars.  In that vain, it has been found that the stock Miata drivertain absorbs 25HP between engine dyno's and wheel dynos.  Stock Mazdaspeed Miata's are dynoing 165WHP stock.  Following the 25HP loss, it shows ~190HP stock, which explains why the old Mazdaspeed MX5 is significantly quicker then the new 170HP MX5!


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Re: One of a Few Toys...
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2006, 03:37:06 pm »
I know you've modded this one, but isn't a stock Mazdaspeed Miata at 170hp?

ovr50,

Indeed I made a mistake in my original post, which I have correct - Stock is 180HP (not 170, that's the new MX-5's stock HP).  However, as I am sure 84im can attest, the Miata crowd is very ... obsessive about their cars.  In that vain, it has been found that the stock Miata drivertain absorbs 25HP between engine dyno's and wheel dynos.  Stock Mazdaspeed Miata's are dynoing 165WHP stock.  Following the 25HP loss, it shows ~190HP stock, which explains why the old Mazdaspeed MX5 is significantly quicker then the new 170HP MX5!



"Significantly quicker"??  Not everyone agrees (from Car and Driver, Oct 05):
"First, this new model is the fastest ever Miata—we know, we know, Mazda wants to forget about that name. It scoots to 60 mph in 6.5 seconds, continues through the quarter in 15 seconds flat at 91 mph, and doesn't stop accelerating until it hits 131 mph. With the exception of the 91-mph trap speed, which was equaled by the turbocharged last-generation Mazdaspeed model, each of those figures sets a record for showroom MX-5s."

The last 178 hp MSM they tested ran to 60 in 6.7 and did the quarter in 15.2. (april 04).

Having 90% of the torque available from 2500 rpms up through the majority of the powerband certainly helps.

Road & Track (Oct 05) told a slightly different story:  their test MX5 could only muster a 7 second romp to 60, but still wasn't deemed "significantly" slower than the MSM:

"At 7.0 seconds to 60, this Miata is only 0.2 sec. slower than the last generation turbo Mazdaspeed MX-5, but less important than 10ths of a second is that the power feels right."

There's no doubt the MSM is a sharper handler than the new MX5 in stock form, but considering there's still a new Mazdaspeed version of the NC yet to come, the MX5 in its 'base form' is pretty formidible.  From the same R&T article:

"The MX-5 circled the skidpad at 0.86g and snaked the slalom at 67.7 mph, again just fractions off the last-generation Mazdaspeed MX-5. Its impressive braking distances — 112 ft from 60 mph, 200 from 80 — put the Miata in league with BMW's M3 SMG and Porsche's Boxster."

Considering an MSM cost over $34k last year and a GS-model MX5 can be had for under $31k with greater comfort and safety and very comparable performance out of the gate, the new car really seems like a great value. 

Of course, with a stock turbo, the modding is easy and productive with little investment for the MSM.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Mazdaspeed Miata... but let's try to keep the claims realistic here.