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« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2006, 04:46:34 pm » |
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« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2006, 08:27:47 am » |
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« Reply #43 on: January 07, 2006, 09:35:43 am » |
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« Reply #44 on: January 07, 2006, 10:02:50 am » |
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You know guys I was really looking forward to get input on the Passat's reliability... |
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« Reply #45 on: January 07, 2006, 10:22:21 am » |
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You know guys I was really looking forward to get input on the Passat's reliability...
Do a Search; I posted the Consumer Reports write up on it. It is not favourable. |
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« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2006, 10:46:50 am » |
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Yeah, I know. That's one of the reason making me pause. I also checked out one of the suggested website but I didn't find anything real valuable though I probably didn't spend enough time to make a good assessment. |
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« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2006, 12:56:53 pm » |
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Well I don't know how useful that is, but the Passat is widely regarded as the most reliable and trouble-free VW...  |
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« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2006, 01:14:18 pm » |
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Well I don't know how useful that is, but the Passat is widely regarded as the most reliable and trouble-free VW...  That does not say much for the rest of the line up then.  |
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« Reply #50 on: January 07, 2006, 01:16:41 pm » |
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I recall a significant difference in assessed reliability between the 1.8 and the V6 models, with the latter being 'recomended' by Consumer Reports in the past. However, in searching the CR site just now, both are attributed with poor reliability.
This is unfortunate, as Passat would have been in the running for my next purchase. However, bullet-proof reliability is too important to me...driving dynamics and nice interiors can't make up for a lack of that.
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« Reply #51 on: January 07, 2006, 01:47:08 pm » |
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Maybe VW should JV with Honda instead of DC on models. |
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« Reply #52 on: January 07, 2006, 01:53:09 pm » |
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Holly cow! Thanks a lot AVToller. That does it for me. No more Passat consideration. If anyone recalls, the earlier (pre-2000MY I think) VWs had only a 24/40000 KM warranty (worse in the industry) and I always thought it was an indication of how much VW believed in their own products! They later went to a better base warranty likely to change customer perception... I would give a few years to the new Passat before believing in its reliability. |
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« Reply #53 on: January 07, 2006, 01:55:22 pm » |
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Maybe VW should JV with Honda instead of DC on models. Any other manufacturer would help VW's record except maybe Mitsu... |
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« Reply #54 on: January 08, 2006, 12:31:12 am » |
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Well I don't know how useful that is, but the Passat is widely regarded as the most reliable and trouble-free VW...  A friend of ours has a Passat 1.8T....it's been less than trouble free and the dealer has been less than stellar. They're now in the market to replace the thing. Possibly park an IS250 in the garage instead.  |
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« Reply #55 on: January 08, 2006, 02:31:42 am » |
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Holly cow! Thanks a lot AVToller. That does it for me. No more Passat consideration. If anyone recalls, the earlier (pre-2000MY I think) VWs had only a 24/40000 KM warranty (worse in the industry) and I always thought it was an indication of how much VW believed in their own products! They later went to a better base warranty likely to change customer perception... I would give a few years to the new Passat before believing in its reliability. Yeah, but given the horror stories I've heard about trying to get VW to honour that warranty doesn't indicate that the longer coverage made much difference. If I had to buy a VW group car, it'd be an Audi: similar iffy reliability, but much better dealer service, or so I'm told. |
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« Reply #56 on: January 08, 2006, 10:17:20 am » |
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Well I don't know how useful that is, but the Passat is widely regarded as the most reliable and trouble-free VW... A friend of ours has a Passat 1.8T....it's been less than trouble free and the dealer has been less than stellar. They're now in the market to replace the thing. Possibly park an IS250 in the garage instead. Well I didn't say the Passat was perfect... I only said that it was the most reliable and trouble-free VW you can buy right now... |
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« Reply #57 on: January 08, 2006, 10:22:29 am » |
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Holly cow! Thanks a lot AVToller. That does it for me. No more Passat consideration. If anyone recalls, the earlier (pre-2000MY I think) VWs had only a 24/40000 KM warranty (worse in the industry) and I always thought it was an indication of how much VW believed in their own products! They later went to a better base warranty likely to change customer perception... I would give a few years to the new Passat before believing in its reliability. Yeah, but given the horror stories I've heard about trying to get VW to honour that warranty doesn't indicate that the longer coverage made much difference. If I had to buy a VW group car, it'd be an Audi: similar iffy reliability, but much better dealer service, or so I'm told. Or so you're told, exactly. EVERY carmaker has ok, good, great, bad and terrible dealerships. There aren't many brands where you can say their dealerships are always bad or always great... my VW dealership here is excellent, and have never refused any of my demands. What you can say is that a company can be problematic for warranty work, but that's not the dealers fault. And VW certainly has never given me any problems with warranty work. My boss even had his '04 Jetta TDI replaced by a new one because there was something wrong with it that they couldn't figure out and fix! I wouldn't dismiss a brand just because of generalities I've heard about their dealerships, and it's a good thing most people think like this or there wouldn't be any Suzukis, Subarus or VWs sold because those 3 usually get bad press for their dealerships, which is bogus in my experience with my VW dealership. Suzuki and Subaru generally have terrible dealerships (in terms of installations), but I've never dealt with them so I don't know how the service are there... |
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« Reply #58 on: January 08, 2006, 12:24:41 pm » |
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Suzuki and Subaru generally have terrible dealerships (in terms of installations), but I've never dealt with them so I don't know how the service are there...
I have experienced both good and bad Subaru dealers. Unfortunately the good one is 1 ½ hours away. The bad one is fine as long as they follow my instructions properly. The mechanics at the back are good; it is the level of management in-between than is poor.
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« Reply #59 on: January 09, 2006, 01:22:20 pm » |
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I recall a significant difference in assessed reliability between the 1.8 and the V6 models, with the latter being 'recomended' by Consumer Reports in the past. However, in searching the CR site just now, both are attributed with poor reliability.
This is unfortunate, as Passat would have been in the running for my next purchase. However, bullet-proof reliability is too important to me...driving dynamics and nice interiors can't make up for a lack of that.
Passat 1.8T ratings were hammered by a bad batch of ignition coils and ignorant dealers/owners not using a VW 502 approved oil (resulting in engines sludging up with "turbo turds"). IMO the bigger problem was how VW dealt with the issues. They typically denied there was an issue until it grew too big to ignore. This could have been dealt with quickly if VW just acknowledged the F$#% up. sucked it up and moved on. For the record my 1.8T, chipped Passat has been driven much harder than it deserves and is completely trouble free. If buying a used Passat it is critical that the owner/dealer can show proper oil changes with a VW502 approved oil. If they cannot, do not buy.l |
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