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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2005, 11:54:21 am » |
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B200 - 168.1" length, 70.0" width, 63.2" height, ~2800 lbs
A3 - 168.7" length, 69.5" width, 56.0" height, ~3263 lbs
The figures are from Canadian Driver test reports.
Wow the A3 is close to 500 points heavier than the B-Class?! That is a huge difference for such small vehicles! I think because of the added height, people will sit more upright in the B-Class, and be much more comfortable.
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« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2005, 12:02:45 pm » |
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I do like the new B-Class, BUT, but, ...I think has this model as a specific, annoying problem I also find in some other MB models; the interior rear-view mirror is mounted much too LOW for tall drivers (I'm 6'-0"). See last photo in the Test Drive article, and note the mirror location! For a MB driver/owner, there is NO hope of having the mirror detached and re-mounted higher as one can in many other auto manufacturers as their models usually have the mirror attached directly to the windshield. Strange, MB provides a nice, large windshield for great visibility, but for some drivers a big chunk of that visibility is significantly blocked by the low mounting position of the interior rear-view mirror. I'm a little dumbfounded as to why the mirror must fixed so low. Why? Is it not a ...(serious) safety hazard?
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« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2005, 12:08:33 pm » |
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I do like the new B-Class, BUT, but, ...I think has this model as a specific, annoying problem I also find in some other MB models; the interior rear-view mirror is mounted much too LOW for tall drivers (I'm 6'-0"). See last photo in the Test Drive article, and note the mirror location! For a MB driver/owner, there is NO hope of having the mirror detached and re-mounted higher as one can in many other auto manufacturers as their models usually have the mirror attached directly to the windshield. Strange, MB provides a nice, large windshield for great visibility, but for some drivers a big chunk of that visibility is significantly blocked by the low mounting position of the interior rear-view mirror. I'm a little dumbfounded as to why the mirror must fixed so low. Why? Is it not a ...(serious) safety hazard?
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That is a great point. But since the roof is so much taller than on a regular sedan, I'm pretty sure it won't be as much of a problem than in their sedans. |
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« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2005, 12:13:45 pm » |
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B200 - 168.1" length, 70.0" width, 63.2" height, ~2800 lbs
A3 - 168.7" length, 69.5" width, 56.0" height, ~3263 lbs
The figures are from Canadian Driver test reports.
 Exterior dimensions do not tell the whole story. Do as I did and actually go sit in both vehicles for comfort and fitment. The rear seats of the A3 are the same or less than my WRX. The B200 is more family oriented than the A3 by far. |
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« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2005, 12:18:54 pm » |
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..WOT $55K LOADED!!! Hmmm sounds just like THE ROYAL FAMILY!!!......  |
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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2005, 12:42:49 pm » |
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..WOT $55K LOADED!!! Hmmm sounds just like THE ROYAL FAMILY!!!......  Well to do families need people movers too. The B Series will have the desired snob appeal. |
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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2005, 12:43:17 pm » |
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2005, 01:43:42 pm » |
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Snowman, the R is the people mover...the B is the compact. A fully loaded R is big, big bucks... |
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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2005, 01:52:48 pm » |
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Snowman, the R is the people mover...the B is the compact. A fully loaded R is big, big bucks...
Yes, it was the B200 Turbo I was in. I did not go near the R. |
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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2005, 01:54:46 pm » |
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2800lbs ... wow that's light! |
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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2005, 02:04:20 pm » |
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Hmmmmm. I’m having trouble with that 2800 lb number. This requires further investigation, that is 200 pounds lighter than my stripped WRX. |
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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2005, 02:08:25 pm » |
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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2005, 02:10:36 pm » |
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I sat in the A3 and just couldn't do it. It's far too low. The rear seat has restricted headroom AND legroom with the Open Sky roof. Trunk room is smaller as well.
The B200 had space everywhere the A3 didn't. I happen to like the way both look - the B looks a little kicked-in-the-a$$ tho, but otherwise is very appealing. The tall seating and view out the large windows can't be beat - I was driving beside one (looking up) with 3 people in it and it's one of the few times I wish I were in that car rather than my own. I really liked it and think it's an intelligent design, but am still stuck on a GTI which is larger insider (more headroom) than the A3, but still looks like a slicker/sportier design than the B at lower cost.
The A3 3.2 Q looks like far better value (if you could call it that), but truthfully buyers may compare both but they're very much apples to oranges. Both are great for urban drivers - the A3 is more single-sporty ski-enthusiast, the B-Class more versatile, urban-chic, 2nd Benz, and roomy.
A base B200T represents good value to me though. Just not when loaded with options. |
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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2005, 02:19:50 pm » |
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That's lighter than my S! |
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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2005, 02:46:46 pm » |
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Wow, I'm 5'10" but feel short in this crowd of people unable to squeeze into an A3. No question in my mind that I'm not the tall wagon type. Don't need the room or the look. I much prefer the A3, but at this point I'm leaning towards waiting for the 4-door GTI next summer. |
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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2005, 02:53:08 pm » |
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Wow, I'm 5'10" but feel short in this crowd of people unable to squeeze into an A3. No question in my mind that I'm not the tall wagon type. Don't need the room or the look. I much prefer the A3, but at this point I'm leaning towards waiting for the 4-door GTI next summer.
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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2005, 02:54:04 pm » |
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I can fit in the A3 and I am 6’-4”. I even moved the seat up an inch or so. The rear seat and cargo area are tighter than the B Series. The B is also a taller design which gives more room inside and makes it easy for entry and egress. |
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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2005, 03:04:08 pm » |
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I can fit in the A3 and I am 6’-4”. I even moved the seat up an inch or so. The rear seat and cargo area are tighter than the B Series. The B is also a taller design which gives more room inside and makes it easy for entry and egress.
It all depends on how much you recline your back seat... I too can sit in any vehicle I want if I recline the back seat into an horizontal position... but it won't be much comfortable. And the more you recline your back seat, the less space rear passengers will have! I personally doubt I'd find it much comfortable in the A3 because its roof is a bit lower than the Golf, and I already thought it was pretty tight in the Golf. There's no doubt in my mind that I'd rather be in a tall wagon than a regular hatchback or wagon. |
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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2005, 03:10:17 pm » |
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Ain't it great that there's another choice in the marketplace? We little people who don't often carry passengers and prefer a regular car can choose the A3, and if you want more space you can get into the B-class. Still waiting to see a B on the road. |
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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2005, 03:12:58 pm » |
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Ain't it great that there's another choice in the marketplace? We little people who don't often carry passengers and prefer a regular car can choose the A3, and if you want more space you can get into the B-class. Still waiting to see a B on the road.
You talk about the B as though it's a spacecraft... what makes the A3 a "regular car"? Since when an extra 4-5" in height makes it not a "regular car"? And besides, a "regular car" like you say is a Corolla, something with 4 doors. A hatchback isn't a "regular car", it's hatchback. |
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