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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #20 on: December 13, 2005, 07:53:30 pm »
Too long a wait. Sounds like some of the problem was out of the dealer's hands though. I hope everything is back to normal for you soon.
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #21 on: December 13, 2005, 07:56:10 pm »
Quote from: Zoo on December 13, 2005, 07:53:30 pm
Too long a wait. Sounds like some of the problem was out of the dealer's hands though. I hope everything is back to normal for you soon.

Even in the cold winter I havent noticed the sulphur odour for a while  ???....maybe I should leave well enough alone  :-\
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #22 on: December 15, 2005, 09:22:54 am »
Not a surprising wait time, given that you are driving a "Toyota Vibe"  ;)

That being said, good to hear that you finally have your Cat.  The delay was probably due to an upgraded part which was not yet in full production.

Then again, it may have been due to a DSM that was on vacation.



From experience, yeah, sulfur smell stinks, but I have had much more luck by switching gasoline sources than by replacing Catalytics on my customers' cars.  Try a different station (shell had the least sulfur content at last check, Esso had some of the highest) and see if that make a difference.

The sulfur smell is most prominent under higher cat temps, IE driving up a long hill at highway speeds.  There is a hill in Hamilon which will illicit the rotten-egg smell from almost any modern car, depending on Gas quality. The smell dissipates with age as well.

Again, glad to hear your Cat is in, and good luck!
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #23 on: December 15, 2005, 11:31:37 am »
Quote from: Windex on December 15, 2005, 09:22:54 am
The delay was probably due to an upgraded part which was not yet in full production.

I am hoping this is the reason.



Quote from: Windex on December 15, 2005, 09:22:54 am
From but I have had much more luck by switching gasoline sources than by replacing Catalytics on my customers' cars.  Try a different station (shell had the least sulfur content at last check, Esso had some of the highest) and see if that make a difference.

I have heard this tons but I still find it hard to believe. I use only name brand gas and this 'Toyota' Vibe is the only car I have had with this problem. My concurrent car, a Montana Van, although with many problems of its own, never gives off the suplhur odour.

Quote from: Windex on December 15, 2005, 09:22:54 am
Again, glad to hear your Cat is in, and good luck!

I have an appointment on Monday. Btw, is a cat. replacement an easy job? That is, not alot can go wrong  ::) going to the dealer for this switcheroo?

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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2005, 11:35:07 am »
On a new car like yours it shouldn't be a problem.  In the event they need to replace another piece due to difficulty with removing the old cat I'm sure they will cover that cost as well.
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2005, 11:51:37 am »
Quote from: Windex on December 15, 2005, 09:22:54 am

The smell dissipates with age as well.

How long should a break in period be for a cat.?

It was more noticeable in the beginning. But I would still get it after 10 k km. Too long.

A cat. which isnt working properly as reflected in the excessive sulphur smell doesnt necessarily throw a check engine light?
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2005, 12:13:59 pm »
Corollas especially are noted for excessive sulfur smells; there is a tsb on reprogramming the controls to reduce this problem.  So I wouldn't be too surprised that the Vibe might experience it as well.

What is the break in period for a cat?  We had a 10 year old Siamese who still smelled terrible.
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2005, 12:15:24 pm »
Quote from: tenpenny on December 15, 2005, 12:13:59 pm

What is the break in period for a cat?  We had a 10 year old Siamese who still smelled terrible.


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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2005, 09:13:42 pm »
What do you mean by TSB?
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2005, 09:16:37 pm »
Quote from: Brigitte on December 15, 2005, 12:15:24 pm
Quote from: tenpenny on December 15, 2005, 12:13:59 pm

What is the break in period for a cat? We had a 10 year old Siamese who still smelled terrible.


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Quote from: Chetan on December 15, 2005, 09:13:42 pm
What do you mean by TSB?
I think tenpenny is referring to a Technical Service Bulletin...
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2005, 09:19:26 pm »
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #31 on: December 17, 2005, 12:08:37 pm »
..?  thinks ...a coupla Aces  ...and two more in the flop....!!!!!! ;D...Cat GUT yer tongue.......here kitty kitty...
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #32 on: December 17, 2005, 12:13:55 pm »
On this forum TSB means The Stupid Bitch….or That Stupid Brige…same thing. ;D
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #33 on: December 17, 2005, 12:15:59 pm »
Uh OH!!!!  someones gettin' a NEW ONE.... :popcorn: :stick: :run:
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2005, 05:47:07 pm »
Quote from: snowman on December 17, 2005, 12:13:55 pm
On this forum TSB means The Stupid Bitch….or That Stupid Brige…same thing. ;D

Always the charmer, aren't we?  A bit early to be hitting the peyote, don't you think, Mushroom Breath?   ::)  You could at least spell my name right on your lame attempts...

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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2005, 08:31:48 pm »
ZZZZZ....zzzzz :drool:
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2005, 09:12:12 pm »
That was the 1st thing I learned when you arrived was the proper spelling of your name, I guess the Bad Boys win the prize.  Remember Snowmen have cold hearts as well as carrots for noses. Coal for eyes and mouths and  probably for Brains as well.  :)    :rofl: :rofl2:
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2005, 09:29:54 pm »
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2005, 02:12:37 pm »
Quote from: articsteve on December 15, 2005, 11:35:07 am
On a new car like yours it shouldn't be a problem. 

An update:

Went into the service dept Monday Dec 19 as requested to get the new cat installed (7 or 8 weeks after I first brought in the car to the dealer with the problem  >:( ) Later that day I called as it was well past the time we had agreed upon....I get the ominous response "There's a problem". He says/claims  ::) it is the right part no. but the diameter of the pipe...I think he said "as it goes into the manifold" is incorrect.   

And now I quote from the paperwork: "new pipe has 1.9 0/S diameter, and orig has 2.20 o/s diameter...."

It is now Dec 30 and I called early this afternoon. No idea when the next cat. will arrive. Crazy.
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Re: expecting too much from a dealer?
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2005, 03:50:00 pm »
They say that there is more than one way to SKIN a cat, but your dealer doesn't seem able to find even one way to install one. Hopefully you will get one next year. Good luck.  ::)
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