Topic: STP - Gas treatment in new car

[barrie1]

About the only additive I use for any of my engines is the E>O>S> product made by GM. I buy this rather cheaply as I do get a good buy on their products. The large bottle is made for V6's and V8 engines and the small bottle is for the 4cyl ones. Cost is around $6.00 per bottle for the larger one. It is a upper cylinder lubricant which really does a great job of leaving a coating on the moving parts especially when they are cold and have no oil up top. When i build a new engine it  is the product that I use to coat the parts for instalation and if it is good enough for the very 1st turnover with no oil ever been there yet then I know it does a great job protecting the rest of the time. EOS stands for Engine Oil Supplement. Its not needed if you are useing Synthetic oil as no additives are ever recommended or required with it. 

[Traum]

Like all additives, some swear by it, some swear at it. Nothing but oil goes it my vehicles, I used Howes Lubricator{Cummins Warranty Approved} in the Dodge, and 3 times a year the ION gets a bottle of fuel injector cleaner. I figure it this way, if GM & Cummins aren't recommending the use of any additives & they spent millions developing their products, who am I to argue with them.

The problem is, as consumers, we don't know whether we should believe everything that the manufacturer told us. Sure, they've spent millions developing their products, but these are the very same people who warned us against bolting on go-fast parts. These are the very same people who detuned their vehicles because one might overlap and eat into another vehicle's market. And these are the same people who wants us to buy a new vehicle from them every 3 to 4 years. We certainly trust them, but only up to a point.

-Rick

[maritime_storm]

Never looked at the basic warranty a Cummins engine comes with I take it. Here's a refresher;

Warranty coverage for our high-horsepower on-highway engines is simple to understand, comprehensive in coverage and backed by the largest parts and service network in North America. Virtually everything is included:

2-year/250,000-mile (402,336 km) Total Coverage

Full parts and labor on warrantable failures due to defects in material or workmanship
Travel or towing when engine is disabled by a warrantable failure or further operation would cause damage
Consumables not reusable do to covered failure
Injectors covered for 2 years or 125,000 miles (201,168 km), whichever occurs first
Cooled EGR subsystem components and Variable Geometry Turbocharger
5-year/500,000-mile (804,672 km) Major Component Coverage

100% registered parts
100% labor
Progressive engine damage
All consumables not reusable do to covered failure
No deductible
All major castings and forgings
But that's just the beginning. Check out our new extended coverage plans that deliver additional protection for up to 5 years or 500,000 miles (804,672 km). That's peace of mind, every year for years to come.

Your right anyone offering that kind of lousy warranty coverage should not be trusted.

[slybry]

Hey Artic....Just went to crappy tire and could not find Marvel Mystery Oil. Can you confirm where you find it.

Thanks

[maritime_storm]

It's in the additives section, with all the "other" fuel treatments. If you can't find it there have a clerk do an alpha search for it in the AS400.

[tpl]

I will be looking for a warranty like that for my next car.... I dont need the 250,000 miles as a moon trip is not in the cards and it would be just my luck to break down there.

BUt a warranty for a BMW diesel or MB diesel that read like a pocket version of that  would be great.....just for the engine... I wonder what it would read if Cummins made gearboxes, transfer cases and axles/

probably even simpler:

You break our power train in the first 250,000 miles and we come and fix it.

[johngenx]

Not sure about Toyota, but with my Mercedes, the warranty was voided if you used any gas additives or oil additives were used.  check it out before putting anything in your tank or crankcase.

[mrthompson]

I found Marvel Mystery Oil at my local Crappy Tire.  I didn't buy it though...I'll pick it up at the next oil change.  It's in the oil additives section (though it is also a fuel additive).   

[mikron15]

http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443279626&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517494&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374303517495&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=1408474396669651&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396669651&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474396670271&bmUID=1129996928488

I am gonna try this product at my next oil change ( in 1-2 weeks)
Is it better to add it to the gas or oil?

[safristi]

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[Snowman]

  Use premium fuel

[ovr50]

I don't understand why anyone would put the snake oil in a new car???

[AVToller]

I don't understand why anyone would put the snake oil in a new car???

Well maybe, if it has rattle(r)s.     

[barrie1]

I think its basically a Upper Cylinder Lubricant which if added to Dino oil will leave a coating in the upper area's of your engine. These are especially helpful in the winter months on Cold starts when you have no oil  in the upper valve train area's. They leave a slick coating on the moving parts which then dosen't leave you with Dry Starts until the Oil Pressure is up. I use the EOS from GM to do the same thing. Its probably OK to use as it is a help to the engines longer life that you want. I wouldn't put it in with Synthetic oil as they already have special additives in them to do the same thing. Some of them may not be compatible as well so you wouldn't be gaining anything out of useing it with the Syn. Thats my view. 

[SeasideLass]

I use Chevron Techron Fuel System Cleaner. Supposedly highly recommended. I'm not having any issues; just trying to prevent them. I add it twice a year; spring and fall.

I don't know if it is available up here, but I get a few bottles every time I'm in the US.

For my new car, I was told to use regular Chevron or Esso gas only   The mechanic who looked after my 30 year old car said to use Chevron, highest grade; and boy, he was adament about that!  Older vehicles he maintained, needed the higher octane.

[mikron15]

I wouldn't put it in with Synthetic oil as they already have special additives in them to do the same thing. Some of them may not be compatible as well so you wouldn't be gaining anything out of useing it with the Syn. Thats my view. 

Thanks for the info. I switched to Synthethic last oil change. So i guess won't be needing it