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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2005, 10:02:56 am »
That's the same machine I have skypoint, I love it!


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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2005, 11:44:10 am »
Bah!  Not this discussion again.  

Don't have one...don't need one, don't want one, and certainly not at the present costs.  I'd much rather spend the $1.5-2K making the car more fun to drive. I prefer to do my route planning in advance, BEFORE I get in the car, not on the fly.  Very seldom have I had to pull over to figure out where I'm going.  I still like the old-fashioned paper map.  But then, I'm OLD.  ;D

Well of course you have no need for anything other than a map... you're in Edmonton!  Drive too far, hit the mountains.  Drive too far the other way and hit wheat fields.  Go a bit too far north hit a polar bear, too far south, you'll find civilized folk who brush their teeth and hair (still wearing cowboy hats though) 

Last weekend Dave (from this forum) and I ventured up to the Kawarthas for a little R&R with the ladies.  We took the Lexus RX330 and had the navi going the whole time.  My role as navigator was so boring that I had to resort to sneakily turning on Dave's seat heater to keep myself amused.  Then we actually had to talk to each other... so we talked about boobs... then cars, for the next few hours.

In the Lexus, I noticed a few times that the system would show us driving along on a secondary road that would simply disappear off the map.  I was not overly impressed with it -- the detail and information offered was substandard to the hand-held units I've seen lately.  Since Dave has had extensive experience using the Lexus system, the Benz COMMAND system and of course the much-hated BMW i-Drive system, I asked him if he had a preference. 

He suggested the Benz system was horrible.  It's apparently overly complex and requires the DVD to be in the player for it to work (I guess in the Lexus you could still use the Nakamichi sound system independent or with the Nav).  Surprisingly, he really liked the i-Drive version though citing its ease and speed of use.  Go figure! 

I've also used the COMMAND system before and can attest that the one time my buddies and I went "looking for a Chinese food restaurant in a strange city" (in fact, it was just Oakville), it took longer to program the damned system than it would have to simply drive around the city looking for the desired destination.  The highlight of the entertainment was going against the voice command's suggested routes and making it scramble to come up with alternate solutions.  "She" never lost her patience or raised her voice.  Amazing technology that. 

My wife and I are fairly proficient at map-reading so we've never NEEDED a GPS system and I recall on family cross-country trips growing up that my brother and I would fight over the maps so that we could study and memorize every place we ventured.  Having said that, I've used the hand-held machines before and know that there are definitely some perks to them when the downloaded maps are thorough enough and up-to-date.  A buddy of mine recently found his system very useful for helping to plan and navigate a long-distance bike trip into and through the Muskokas.  The GPS system showed him abandonned railroad tracks that normal maps wouldn't have provided him.

The best 'fun' drive I took this year happened expressly because I DID NOT have a map or GPS.  I knew the destination I needed and knew the direction I needed to head to get there, but as far as choosing a specific route, I just 'explored' my way there... empty and twisty country roads, through forests, over gravel, whatever.  2 hours later, I arrived grinning ear to ear thinking that the only thing that could have made life better at that moment was if I had just done the trip in a Porsche Boxster instead of my Audi.  :)

I do have one fond memory of GPS usageto thought.  It happened earlier this year at a Canadian Driver Sanctioned Function (the Auto Show).  Hell, it only took us about 45 minutes last February to get James' system to find a beer store in downtown Toronto (remind me next year to just start walking as soon as you pull that thing out!).
« Last Edit: September 13, 2005, 11:53:38 am by jeff1 »

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2005, 11:56:14 am »
Modern society is becoming far too lazy, and our reliance on modern technology is stupefying us into oblivion. I don’t even program numbers into my cell phone….I store them in the memory chip on my shoulders.

I can understand that modern technology is a tool to assist us, but I fear we have gone too far.

Ha-ha…..the problem with James’s GPS that day was probably due to the fact the LCBO was 10m below the street. Stupid Z axis…..GPS technology needs to go 3D.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2005, 11:58:00 am by snowman »

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2005, 12:49:18 pm »
I'll bet the Abacus and T-squares work just fine for Snowman, Ovr90, AVTootler and Drivesloways too.
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2005, 12:58:27 pm »
"My car gets fifty rods to the hog's head and that's the way I likes it.  Now fill it up with petrolium distolate and revulcanize the tyres post haste!"

Yes, Mr. Burns.   ;D

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2005, 01:39:36 pm »
I'll bet the Abacus and T-squares work just fine for Snowman, Ovr90, AVTootler and Drivesloways too.
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Actually, I prefer to measure in cubits.  :)
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2005, 01:49:36 pm »
I prefer GOOD fuel economy, so I could never be happy with only 50 rods per hogshead (825' per 63 US gallons), and good quality tires are a must so I woundn't accept revulcanized ones, but otherwise, it sounds pretty good.  ;D ;D
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2005, 02:19:34 pm »
What's an "abacus" and a "t-square" - some new fangled inventions????   ;D :D ;D ;)
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2005, 02:52:27 pm »
Well Jeff....if you would have stopped playing with the zoom...that mystery road would have shown up.

Besides, you were to busy chatting about "daisies" with the ladies to concentrate on the Navi  ;)

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2005, 03:01:21 pm »
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2005, 03:22:22 pm »
I have one in GC and like it a lot...have already used it a couple of times and for me, who is driving alone most part of the time, its a very cool feature instead of emerging in maps and worrying about which exit i should take or which is the right turn....things like this...for me it was worth the investment.

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2005, 03:36:35 pm »
So...you're down to $750-$1000 "per use" now?  Boy, that thing almost pays for itself.

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2005, 04:19:11 pm »
Seriously, IF I were going to be doing a lot of driving in unfamiliar big cities, I would consider NAVI, but that is the only situation that could make it worthwhile to me.  ;D

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2005, 05:02:18 pm »
Modern society is becoming far too lazy, and our reliance on modern technology is stupefying us into oblivion.

Spend some time in the wilderness at that becomes very apparent.  Years ago everyone could read a map and navigate with a topo and compass.  Today, only us "oldsters" have topo maps and compasses in our packs.  Sure, I use a GPS, but would never rely on it.  Batteries die, screens break, whatever.  My map can't break.  It could blow away, but I usually can muster enough strength to keep that from happening.

But, most people I meet just don't have any navigation tools or skills.  No map, no compass, no GPS, couldn't use 'em if they did have them.  They just follow the trail.  Last September I was on The Skyline Trail and found some very confused backpackers.  It had been snowing very heavily for about 12 hours.  Visibility was about 200M and the trail had long been buried under a couple feet of snow.  They were sitting at the edge of a tarn, lost.  Lost, 20M from the trail!  Map?  Compass?  GPS?  Nope.  I had programmed my route into my GPS and was using the "Nav" screen to find my way.  I had read the map carefully to understand any dangerous features I needed to avoid (walking off a cliff in a snow storm would not be fun...) and stopped frequently to check my progress.  If I had given my map and GPS and compass to the lost packers, they still would have been lost.  I was shocked when none of them could read a topo or route-find using a map.

I like calculators, but you need to understand the underlying mathematics.

I like GPS, but know how to read a map.

I wouldn't pay extra for a navigation system in my car, but I suspect eventually they will be standard.  I'd probably use it on occasion if I had it.
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2005, 07:46:23 pm »
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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #35 on: September 14, 2005, 12:39:24 am »
Same sh*t...different pile.

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Re: Navigation systems
« Reply #36 on: September 14, 2005, 01:09:58 am »
In all fairness to James GPS machine the liqour store was underground and around 800 feet away. We weren't thirsty enough to smell it. John we assume all ended well for those frozen hikers that day as well.