Author Topic: Krown or Rust check? (Read 25075 times)

bunky · « **on:** August 27, 2005, 02:25:59 pm »

As I have said in other threads, I bought a 2005 toyota Echo HB, and want to ensure a long partnership.

I have read numerous articles on Krown vs Rust check and am on the fence. So, I want to know what the members on this site would recommend.

I also want to know if synthetic oil is really the way to go. I basically do highway traffic and deligent in maintenance schedules. So, not sure if the syn oils would be as good as "dino oil".

Thanks

barrie1 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2005, 09:09:52 pm »

I strongely suspect that the Syn oil will even be better for your engine then the Dino Oil. Many other Posters here will agree with me on that for sure. Personally I would go with the Krown Oil treatment as it is known to be the Very Best.

airbalancer · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2005, 09:46:05 pm »

At CFB Borden they get their vehicles done with Krown
Syn oil is better but it depends on how much you change your oil

(Message edited by airbalancer on August 27, 2005)

gta_driver · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2005, 11:31:02 pm »

I've Krown Rust sprayed my "Q" every year since '96. No rust on it anywhere.

AVToller · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2005, 01:22:14 am »

If most of your driving is highway, I doubt you will reap much benefit from synthetic. I will probably use it, but the majority of my driving will be short trips on a cold engine - the worst wear situation.

slybry · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2005, 10:34:40 am »

I would say products are equal in effectiveness so what matters is how well they apply it. I would go to place that has dedicated bays for doing this not a place that is a repair shop and does a few of these applications on the side.

I just get mine done every 2nd year and it has worked. Just sold 1994 Sentra with no rust.... I mean not a spot anywhere. In Montreal that is good.

No warranty but cuts my rustproofing costs in half and suspect warranty will have loopholes if and when I would every require their help.

safristi · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2005, 10:41:02 am »

Why is Synthetic such a stretch for a lot of people ....CHEAPASSNESS...it's like the folks here with cars REQUIRING PREMIUM,who moan and beatch about that...sell it and buy a "REGULAR" car....
If I'm paying $25,000 and up for a car in Canada I don't worry about a once a year synth oil change bankrupting me and a filter change in between at 8,000K...HELL there is even NEW MOBIL !1EXTENDED LIFE (I add it to MY porridge!!!

) good for 20,000 odd MILES.
We all do stop and go and majority have COLD WINTERS these two reasons ALONE are enuf ta warrant synth...take the BIG LEAP !!!!

into the great UNKNOWN!!!!! WORLD OF SCARY SYNTH...!!!!

Craig · « **Reply #7 on:** August 28, 2005, 07:02:41 pm »

Holy crap. I understood that. I'm learning to speak Saffi.

So let me reply: What about the millions of cars that survived just fine on regular dino juice? What reason is there to spend another $30 per oil change? Synth can go longer between oil changes, but it's not like new car warranties will take that into account.

Our X-Trail is getting Mobil1 changes, so I've been swayed by the synthetic argument. But I'm still using regular 5W30 in the EL. With 130K, why would I switch it to synthetic now?

On the subject of Krown vs. Rust Check, my understanding is that Krown is the superior formula.

(Message edited by cphansen on August 28, 2005)

AVToller · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2005, 08:03:01 pm »

"Holy crap. I understood that. I'm learning to speak Saffi."

Scary, isn't it?!!!!

bunky · « **Reply #9 on:** August 28, 2005, 08:30:10 pm »

I too believe that regular oil is just fine, just be sure to keep changing it regularly.

I also am swaying to the Krown, thanks for pushing me to that side of the fence.

The other question is, when is the best time of the four seasons to apply?

random006 · « **Reply #10 on:** August 28, 2005, 08:50:12 pm »

Bunky wrote:
The other question is, when is the best time of the four seasons to apply?

I asked that of the Krown dealer I use and they said it doesn't matter all that much. That said, I did mine in the summer as it made sense to me to do it before the weather got bad. Remember, rust proofing is prevention, not correction.

Besides, doing car stuff in the summer is always easier.

Craig · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2005, 09:23:20 pm »

The warm weather also helps the oil to seep into the creases, etc.

barrie1 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2005, 09:31:07 pm »

Definitely in the Summer for the Heat to make it creep into the creases and normally unreachable spots.

zeeboy47 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 30, 2005, 02:14:57 pm »

These two companies require re-application every year.

Has anyone any experience with a form of rustproofing that is applied once, and good for a while. Something like the old Ziebart process. I treated my Blazer with a local shop (Barrie's) who use a grease and oil concoction, and drill no holes anywhere (or so they say). I spent about $600 at the time, and can't comment on how good it was (no rust at all, but the car is only 4 years old!).

Ovr50,
Did you treat your HL, since I called the Krown shop here, and they told me they will have to drill some holes to get into the doors and rockers among other places. Wondering if it is better to get the annual treatment, or the more permanent type.

No H2O · « **Reply #14 on:** August 30, 2005, 02:22:25 pm »

Our government labs tested both Krown and Rust Check and the Krown was far superior in all aspects.

Krown has different products.

T32 is the red/pink stuff a lot of the outlets use.
It is great for interior panels, but I found it washes off the bottom of the car too easily.

T40 is light brown/tan and is a bit thicker.
I use this both inside and for the underside of my car. It flows...trust me.

You can also have Krown with Tack added.

If you do your homework, a lot of holes don't need to be drilled, for example, most rocker panels have rubber plugs under them at both ends that can be removed prior to the spraying process...same goes for the B pillar if it has a rubber grommet for the electrics...you get the idea. I strip all my door panels every year...no holes. I also spray my own Krown.

Whatever you do, DON'T go for any dealer packages; be it rustproofing, fabric or paint treatment. They are a RIP OFF big time.

(Message edited by Hcrv on August 30, 2005)

articsteve · « **Reply #15 on:** August 30, 2005, 02:34:30 pm »

Has anyone any experience with a form of rustproofing that is applied once, and good for a while. Something like the old Ziebart process

KOD

(Kiss Of Death)

Actually promotes rust. It will take a few more years. Your brake lines' life span will be reduced.

Krown only effective product. Sad but true. Industry as a whole is a jumbo ripoff.

zeeboy47 · « **Reply #16 on:** August 30, 2005, 03:31:07 pm »

Slybry,
Can you PM me with where you get yours done, or provide the URL if they are webbed.

orlo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2008, 03:45:57 pm »

I have used both Krown and Rust Check and found both to be very effective. I use it on my 1980 FIAT Spyder now every third year but used at first Rust Check from about 1982 to about 1989 and since then I have used Krown because a local garage was applying it. I have no rust. I also learned that the Krown formula was duplicated from Rust Check by former employees who wanted to start up their own franchise which was not possible at the time. PS: have it done after the winter, in the summer when it has time and the warmth to seep into the seams to protect and displace moisture.
Regarding synthetic oils. Try pouring regular oil vs synthetic oil in the winter and you will see why I prefer to use synthetic oil especially in the winter! You will also notice that the car runs quieter as well and you should also get just a little little better fuel economy.
Good luck with your new car.

Lose your job yet? Quit building Scrap.

mrthompson · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2008, 03:53:50 pm »

The car ain't new after almost 3 years. Holy thread resurrection, Batman!

articsteve · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2008, 07:19:45 pm »

I also learned that the Krown formula was duplicated from Rust Check by former employees who wanted to start up their own franchise which was not possible at the time.

Krown's formula is their own. Not duplicated in any respect.