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Offline paulk

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Re: You need a vehicle to last you 10 years, which one do you buy?
« Reply #80 on: September 05, 2005, 08:59:29 pm »
The German cars have been more problematic with regards to electrics for many years now.  Where the German engineering shines is in the drivelines and suspension components.  ...
Now, the Japanese cars have made huge strides in quality, but they still seem to fall short in some areas when the cars get older.

I agree with you on the electrical problems of Euro vehicles, but I'm not sure the rest of this perception is borne out by the statistics.  For each vehicle, Consumer Reports gives a breakdown of their statistics by model year and vehicle component.  European vehicles have a greater tendency to be below average or poor right across the board.

For instance, a 1997 Jetta gets their worst rating ("poor") for electrical, paint/trim/rust, body integrity, and body hardware, as well as "below average" for the fuel system, A/C, exhaust, and power equipment.  Not a single component in the vehicle gets a rating above "average."  BMWs and Mercedes fare a little better, but not much.  Audis are between BMW and VW.  All these ratings are based on statistical data, not qualitative perceptions or anecdotes.  In comparison, a 1997 Civic gets "excellent" or "very good" reliability ratings for all vehicle systems, except exhaust and body integrity, which are rated "average."  Not a single component gets a rating below "average."

It's better to buy a European vehicle for the looks and prestige, planning to sell it within 5 years, rather than as a long term, reliable vehicle.  Long term and used, the statistics suggest that Euro vehicles tend to be a poor value.

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Re: You need a vehicle to last you 10 years, which one do you buy?
« Reply #81 on: September 06, 2005, 08:27:21 am »
What about you?

Why ONLY 10 years? Change all the fluids often, get it Krowned and it'll last 15 years easy. A co-worked has almost 500,000 kilometers on his Camry...engine never been apart except for its first clutch at 376,000 kilometers.

Get a Toyota or Honda. You can't go wrong. Excpet for a BMW, they're all I've been driving since 1983 and since I gave up on the big 3 way back then (they still haven't gotten it together).
What you won't find in my car is a coffee, cigarette and a cell phone. What you will find is a driver; imagine that, a driver in a vehicle. What an effing concept!

A car has to do more than just perform; it has to stir your soul!

A true driver's car does not have cup holders.

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Re: You need a vehicle to last you 10 years, which one do you buy?
« Reply #82 on: September 06, 2005, 10:44:06 pm »
I am still driving my 1984 Seville Elagante which has a little over 300,000 klms on it and dosen't use any oil at all. This car I have had almost since new and still a dailey driver. I am not afraid to drive to either coast with this car any day of the week. I'll probably keep it another 20 years and double my money on it for what I paid originaly for it.  Any good qaulity car will last most of your life if your really look after it. Boredom with the same car is the main reason people deal their vehicles every 3-5 years. I still really like my Seville and to me thats the beauty of buying a Good Quality Car the 1st time, they last and last.  :)