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« on: July 19, 2005, 06:09:38 pm »
Two recent news items on the endless business machine that is Toyota (courtesy of www.autoblog.com)

"Toyota increases sales forecast
Despite saying that sales volume isn’t important, Toyota has increased its sales forecast. Toyota has raised its global group forecast to 8.15 million vehicles, from an earlier 8.03 million. Toyota is expecting to see big gains in the US and Middle East markets, perhaps as much as 600,000 more than a year earlier. Toyota is expected to release an offical update of its 2005 global group sales forecast. The group forecast will also include commerical truck maker Hino, as well as Daihatsu. Toyota has seen a nearly eleven percent increase in US sales in the first half of 2005. To take advantage of the increased demand, Toyota is also raising prices on it’s models."

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"Toyota continues to add North American capacity
 
Toyota continues to add new North American capacity, with the recently announced Ontario assembly plant adding another 100,000 annual units of RAV4 production. This will be Toyota’s third plant in five years, and even at that, their NA sales continue to increase faster than their ability to build vehicles here. In 2004, 62% of Toyota’s vehicles that were sold in the US were built in NA; Nissan (76%) and Honda (79%) produce more of their vehicles domestically. Toyota wants to produce at least 60% of their US sales in NA, which may be difficult to do if sales continue to outstrip capacity increases. It’s the sort of problem that the overcapacitized Big 3 would love to have. Additionally, Toyota has plans in place to increase the total domestic content of their vehicles, with trucks being built at their new San Antonio plant having approximately 90% of their components sourced in NA."

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2005, 06:21:26 pm »
Toyota is turning into the Microsoft of the automotive world, with one glaring exception...

Their products are GOOD!
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2005, 07:29:04 pm »
On a bad month, largest Toyota dealer sold 180 cars. On a good month, they sold a minimum of 300 cars. A really amazing numbers without special rates and discount.

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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2005, 11:05:16 pm »
Toyota is on an amazing roll. This despite their product line-up being a big yawn. But then, more people paint their home beige than any other color.

Who thinks that Toyota can attain market domination and stay there? Is it inevitable that they become complacent and become victims of their own success? Does anyone know of any mass consumer products that have consistently remained on top after achieving high levels of success?

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2005, 11:42:28 pm »
The people that run Toyota are very smart.They actually have along term plan(s) and are preparing for it.They may be abit overly cautious though.IMO one of the reasons why thier product line up is a yawn.
Toyota will reach the top and stay there for a long time before thier turn is up.

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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2005, 12:11:24 am »
Toyota has recognized that their styling is one of the only weaker points they have; and I understand that we can expect more "stylish" vehicles from Toyota going forward. IMO the phrase "big yawn" is a bit too strong as one cannot say Honda styling is much different. If Toyota were to sacrifice their dependibility, resale and reputation for the sake of high style, I think it would be a mistake. If they can up the style component, while keeping the rest, they will dominate.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2005, 12:16:07 am »
Toyota's lean production is the industry benchmark for efficiency and quality. They are also the first carmaker to adapt JIT principal. If you have read a great book called "The Toyota Way", you won't be surprise Toyota's succeed. They learned to address their mistakes very quickly. Even there aren't many innovations coming from their house, they adapted other's technologies and improved upon in no time. Everything from supplier to dealer policies are under strict Toyota control. Yes, their products are boring but that's what most ppl are looking for. They have done research so extensively that every products please everyone, to some extent, boring because it done everything well.

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2005, 12:19:53 am »
True thier styling needs to be improved.But thier cars do not seem to inspire any spirited driving.Example-Traction and stability kick in way to early.Honda's are or at least feel sportier.Noticed that difference between girlfriends Corolla and ex-girlfriends Civic.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2005, 01:18:56 am »
Styling is usually the least important factor in my purchase decisions. There are limits of course (no Aztek for me), but except for extreme cases, I focus on reliability, economy, "tossability", and meeting my size requirements. Oh, and raw speed is also low on MY radar (implication intended).
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2005, 08:31:07 am »
As a result the Toyota Highlander came out on top. The best thin I like about the Highlander is that I don’t notice it….it never complains. After 90k and with months to go on the lease I’m not sure I want to give it back.

Toyota manufactures reliable automobiles for the destination driver masses. Unlike the majority of the people on the board these people use an automobile to get from A to B and could care less…….

If Toyota were to start making affordable “fun” and “stylish” cars for the auto enthusiast the competition would not sleep very well.  

Toyota will be No. 1 before 2010

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2005, 11:10:39 am »

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2005, 12:00:53 pm »
"Honda aims to increase global sales 25 percent over three years.Company president outlines automaker's world-wide growth strategy."

And from the same edition as Snowy cited above - life isn't going to get any easier or better for Ford and GM and possibly DC too if they falter.

Time doesn't stand still and the Japanese are relentless. For us as consumers that means we really are getting good products because they have to all work harder at attracting us.

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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2005, 12:05:27 pm »
Within a few years, Honda, Toyota and Hyundai will be sucking up most of the "mainstream" market with products consisting mostly of family-haulers including sedans (several levels) and mini-vans.  The Japanese attack continues with Subaru and Mazda scoring the niche markets.

Anyone wonder where da heck GM and it's cousins DC and Ford-proper fit in?  Me too.

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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2005, 12:11:35 pm »
I walk weekly on a Sunday around the local dealers lots and Toyota gives me the least BUZZ per foot_step...bland looks,bland colours,bland negotiations(I hear!!)..FOR reliable I'll look at sunup and sundown....
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and McSuburbs..I've done MY share...but for cars..give me MORE.......I've had my fill of plain pepperonni Pizzas..give me a deep dish with FLAVOUR,COLOUR and TASTE..I can remember for days to come.......
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2005, 12:19:22 pm »
Saf, the thing is that MOST people don't need that much in a car. They want something that will last then 5-6 years without troubles and gets them good fuel economy. And that is where Toyota is king. They also have a wide variety of models, which helps retain all those happy customers into their showrooms. And when they get older and have more money, Lexus is waiting for them.

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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2005, 12:29:12 pm »
"And when they get older and have more money, Lexus is waiting for them."

I wish - should be when they get older and have LESS money, Echo is waiting for them.  


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« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2005, 12:46:57 pm »
Ya mean an OLDS'mobile....!!!!!......looks like men are from MARS!!!!!!!

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« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2005, 01:10:58 pm »
Toyota has done so well in differentiating the market so conventional joes buy the Toyota label but the upscale buyers go to Lexus?  Why won't VW do that?  They have just as vast a lineup as Toyota, but they like to group them all under one badge.  In NA, image is everything.

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« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2005, 01:39:52 pm »
I recently read an article where Toyota was complaining that could not reach upcoming CAFE requirements with North American vehicles that they agreed to a few years ago. Where is the vaunted long term planning there?

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« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2005, 02:14:17 pm »
Toyota wasn't the only one complaining about that, but the big 3 as well.  IMHO, I believe this move was made in order to give more "political weight" to the agenda of auto industry lobbyists i.e. extending the deadline for stricter emmissions.