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« on: June 28, 2005, 10:14:05 am »
How come we in canada on't get this or are we going to get this soon??

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« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2005, 11:05:19 am »



GM US market share and sales are down far more than Canadian volume and share.
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« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2005, 11:12:00 am »
I'm waiting for this deal, hopefully we get it when I am ready to buy ;)


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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2005, 12:41:38 pm »
I am told the discount covers the taxes

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« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2005, 12:57:35 pm »
James, are you looking to replace the S2000 with a Solstice or Sky?
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« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2005, 01:02:33 pm »
Jamesbe woz HOT fer the Caddy CTS...MY BET!!!! on his testicle drives....from Bananrama ta WHATAMELONBOY!!!!
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« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2005, 03:15:55 pm »
I asked them the same question via the "Contact us" on the web. Here is their reply:

"Thank you for your e-mail.

In regards to vehicle pricing variances between Canada and the United States, we must clarify that General Motors Corporation in the U.S. and General Motors of Canada Limited (GMCL) are two separate divisions of the same corporation.
As such, there may be differences between the two divisions such as, in this case, pricing structure.  Please keep in mind that there are also national economical differences to consider.

Our dealerships are operating in a very competitive market.  Their overhead is governed by location and the general economic condition of that location; thus, dealer pricing is determined by these factors.

General Motors provides our dealerships with a manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) only.  The law does not permit General Motors to regulate or dictate retail prices quoted by our dealerships; therefore, the dealerships

have the right to set their own pricing, which may be above or below the MSRP.
The competitive nature of this business does allow the consumer the opportunity to shop and compare.

If you require further assistance, do not hesitate to e-mail me back by visiting us at http://www.gmcanada.com.

Thank you for visiting our website!"




I asked because the GM pricing for the sportier Saab 9-2X is just under $20k US versus just under $38k Canadian!!! That's one heck of a difference!

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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2005, 03:25:16 pm »
Alldz...there HAS to Be    some benefit ta livin' inna THIRD WHIRRLED COUNTRY....!!!!!!....third world vehicles....AAAAaaaIIIIeeeee,,,da SWAMP...!!!! NO Senator THAT WAS DETROIT....!!!!!!

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« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2005, 05:20:36 pm »
Translation:
It just means that since they sell less than 1/10 of what they sell in the US,they will try to get every last penny out of us.Ever wonder why "our cars" come either fully loaded or stripped down with a few nice options bundled with the "luxury package".

As for the dealers,it means that GM will let them do whatever they want.......and will not take any responcibilty for the sleezy/shady dealers.

Anyone else agree?

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« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2005, 09:23:51 pm »
Sorry I disagree with that as I am sure the dealers have a good knowledge of how Canadians order most cars. Some of us prefer loaded models and others don't need all of the bells and whistles. All dealers have a good selection of cars like this. Not everyone can afford the loaded version as well so why stock only the best.

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« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2005, 11:18:42 pm »
I'm not talking about cars dealers stock.I'm talking about the way GM Canada equips and markets cars for the Canadian market.
Example a sport package is only available with the luxury package.
The dealers stock what they think will sell the most based on the confines of the available trim lines and how the options are packaged.

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2005, 09:31:28 pm »
You also have the option of ordering the vehicle the way you want it as well. The Dealers are not the only ones who have a say.

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« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2005, 07:48:45 am »
yeah and if you do that, you have to wait 2-3 months just to get your car... just like happened to S60's Focus with Side Air Bags...

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« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2005, 12:48:16 pm »
Waiting a couple months is OK by me, if it was for a car I really wanted and couldn't get it any other way. Say a new Mustang or a new BMW 330 or like.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2005, 01:02:29 pm »
True Barrie,I can order a car any way I want.
My point had to do with the way GM Canada packages cars for the Canadian market to make up for our much lower volume. Example,GM Canada decides to make the "luxury package" a mandatory option with the "sports package" while the americans can have the "sports package" as a stand alone option.Or ABS is standard in a higher trim line,but bundled with extra goodies in a lower trim line.
Is that not a way of making more money per car on a much lower sales volume?  
How is dealer supposed to control that?

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« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2005, 08:56:14 pm »
GM sales jump 46.9 percent in June
Automaker's truck sales soar 75 percent; Chrysler to offer employee pricing in July

Dale Jewett

DETROIT -- Giving everyone the employee discount had the effect of running General Motors' sales engine on high-octane racing fuel.  
GM posted a huge 46.9 percent U.S. sales gain in June compared with June 2004. Dealerships moved 550,829 units during the month -- nearly twice as many sales as rival Ford Motor Co. It was GM's best sales month since September 1986.  
GM's U.S. market share for June was 32.8 percent, up 6.9 percentage points from June 2004. For the year to date, GM gained 0.1 percentage points of share to reach 27.1 percent.  
The program was so successful that the Chrysler group said Friday that it would launch a similar promotion starting on July 6. The GM promotion is scheduled to end on July 5, but may be extended.  
GM pulled the entire industry along in its wake. Ford Motor Co. and DaimlerChrysler posted sales gains in June, as did Nissan, Toyota and Honda.  
June sales totaled 1.67 million units, up 15.9 percent from June 2004. The month's sales translated into a seasonally adjusted annual sales rate of 18.13 million units. That was up from a rate of 15.90 million units in May.  
Many of those GM buyers rolled out in new pickups and SUVs. GM's truck sales for the month rose 75.8 percent from a year ago. Car sales rose 8.5 percent, a gain that was limited by a large drop in fleet sales.  
The month's performance also was a testament to the power of a well-crafted, simple marketing message. While consumers flocked to take advantage of insider prices, GM said its spending on rebates for the month was flat to slightly up compared with June.  
Most buyers in July also opted to buy the vehicle instead of leasing, GM said.  
With the strong June, GM's sales for 2005 are now up 2.1 percent compared with the first six months of 2004. Its sales totaled 2.32 million for the period.  
GM's sales include the Chevrolet, Buick, Pontiac, Cadillac, Saturn, GMC, Hummer and Saab brands.  
DaimlerChrysler sales rose 5.1 percent in June to 238,282 units. For the year to date, sales are up 3.8 percent to 1.28 million units. The sales data includes the Chrysler group and Mercedes-Benz.  
Hyundai Group sales, covering the Hyundai and Kia brands, rose 1.7 percent in June to 70,146 units. After six months, group sales are up 7.8 percent to 367,523 units.  
Nissan, Toyota remain strong  
Nissan North America continued its growth in June, as combined sales of the Nissan and Infiniti brands jumped 18.8 percent to 92,781 units.  
The Nissan division got a boost from the redesigned Pathfinder SUV, which nearly tripled its sales from June 2004. The Infiniti luxury channel got a bump from strong sales of the redesigned M sedan.  
Through the first six months of this year, Nissan North America sales are up 14.8 percent to 542,723 units.  
GM's big month didn't diminish sales at rival Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. Inc. Toyota's U.S. sales arm posted a 14.4 percent gain in June with 194,875 units. After six months, Toyota's sales stand at 1.11 million units, up 10.9 percent compared with the same period in 2004.  
The Toyota Division got a boost from the redesigned Avalon sedan, while luxury division Lexus was propelled by the redesigned GS sedan.  
Ford posts slight gain  
Ford Motor Co. eked out a 0.3 percent sales gain in June, as the automaker got a boost from car sales.  
Ford said its car sales rose 8.5 percent for the month, compared with June 2004, to slightly more than 100,000 units. Truck sales for the month fell 3.0 percent to about 189,000 units.  
Through the first half of this year, Ford's sales are down 4.6 percent to 1.60 million units. Ford's sales numbers include the Ford, Mercury, Lincoln, Aston Martin, Jaguar, Land Rover and Volvo brands.  
Mazda, in which Ford owns a controlling stake, saw its sales fall 18.2 percent in June to 22,063 units. Mazda's high-volume Mazda3 and Mazda6 lines both posted declines for the month. For the year to date, Mazda sales are down 3.9 percent to 134,988 units.  
BWM, VW see declines
BMW group sales fell 3.3 percent in June to 27,034 units, due in part to the changeover to a new generation of the BMW 3-series sedan.  
After six months, BMW group sales are up 0.8 percent to 145,053. The group includes the BMW, Mini and Rolls-Royce brands.  
An uptick in Volkswagen Jetta sales and the contribution of the recently introduced Audi A3 hatchback were not enough to counteract sales drops of the VW New Beetle and Passat in June.  
Total VW sales -- covering the VW, Audi and Bentley brands -- fell 11.0 percent in June to 26,620 units, according to the Automotive News Data Center. Through the first six months of this year, VW sales are down 17.3 percent to 136,236 units.  
Among other automakers reporting:  

The bleeding at Mitsubishi slowed to a trickle in June. The automaker sold 10,621 units during the month, down only 13.7 percent from June 2004. Mitsubishi's monthly sales drops have been in the 25 to 30 percent range over the past several months.  
For the year to date, Mitsubishi sales are down 35.4 percent to 65,753 units.  

Isuzu sales dropped 49.6 percent from a year ago in June to 1,289 units. After six months, Isuzu sales are down 47.9 percent to 7,599 units.  

Porsche sales fell 9.1 percent in June to 2,551 units. Through the first half of this year, sales are up 2.7 percent to 16,126 units.  

Suzuki sales totaled 7,449 units in June, down 0.5 percent from a year ago. After six months, sales totaled 42,014 units, up 5.5 percent.

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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2005, 04:07:08 pm »
Claudster we went thru many years here in Canada with having entirely different models of cars then the ones from the US. An example is the earlier Bonneville from Pontiac which we could not order here but only was sold in the US at the time. Even the engine choices were not the same as well. Why has it always been this way I don't know other then I would believe that GM must have their reasons. Anyone who orders a car from the factory generally has a wait but some can be excessive times depending on the model and when they are scheduled to build the next batch of them.

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2005, 09:03:47 pm »
FORD has joined GM & Chrysler in "Employee!!!" discounts...examples show cars selling for on average $4,000 US less than 'normal".....WDF...we Canucks are gettin corn_holed here......anyone thinking of buying a BIG 3 here in Canada has to be literally PISSED to sign the papers......this is disgraceful..we should tack on a
FECK_U tax on out autos and Lumber and oil and water and gas and copper and nickel and and and...Happy Independence day ya MoFo's

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« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2005, 11:28:51 pm »
This goes with what I have been saying all along in my other posts.Since we are a very small market,"they" will try to get every last penny from us.

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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2005, 06:40:06 pm »
This from todays Toronto Star.It looks like Ford and DCC will be offering emplyee discounts in Canada to.I guess that I should cancel my last post.
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_T ype1&c=Article&cid=1120668665185&call_pageid=968350072197&col=969048863851