Barrie - I said above that I would say no more on this but this last outburst has caused me to post again. I gave avt a 5 myself as I happen to agree with what he said. I have known avt through another auto forum for several years, and he is an honest, intelligent gentleman. Incidently, this other auto forum has moderators and a lot of what gets said in personal ways on here would never be allowed over there. Personal attacks are not allowed and you would be warned, if it persists, you would be barred entry.
Whether or not avt is in the trade has nothing to do with what's going on here. This is about name calling, rudeness and lack of respect for other posters. I'm not in the trade either, but I know bad manners when I see (read) them. You say posters don't know your background but you certainly don't know theirs either; yet you presume to make statements that question their intelligence and understanding.
You really don't UNDERSTAND what we are talking about when we talk of being civil. You are only civil until someone disagrees with you and then you bad-mouth them. You say you don't like "this behavior on here", yet you are one of the first to call ppl names or that they are idiots.
I believe (and this will probably earn me your enduring dislike) that, based on over 2 years of participating on this Forum with you present, that you are one of the most uncivil posters on here. Furthermore, some of your posts are so one-sided that others just naturally rib you, or call you on the post, and your usually reaction is one of being defensive and angry. I have personally called your bluff on some posts, and have proven them inaccurate, or, at least, unable to be substantiated. You tend to ignore such evidence and press on as if nothing has happened. But it is not forgotten by others on here.
I have bitten my tongue (typing fingers) many times over your posts, but I've had enough. I'm sorry it's come to this, but I can't go on just ignoring your attitude on here. You have had verbal and unpleasant battles with at LEAST 6 or 7 posters on here in the past year. It just goes on, the only thing that changes is who you are fighting with this week.
You will likely never change and you certainly won't believe this post to be accurate. I will try to ignore your future outbursts, but at least you now have an honest assessment of how I feel about what's going on here.
I wish it could be otherwise. But it's not.
BTW - posting the smilie after each of your attacks does not diminish the words in the post.
(Message edited by ovr50 on June 26, 2005)
(Message edited by ovr50 on June 26, 2005)