Author Topic: Toyo tires (Read 1410 times)

shawna · « **on:** June 14, 2005, 09:26:09 pm »

I have a new mazda 3 2004 That came with toyo tires on it I have to get 4 new tires already and I only have 48,000kms on my car. I don't understand why I would have to get new tires already. I have rotated them every 8,000kms and they are bold. anyone have this problem.

ovr50 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 14, 2005, 11:07:13 pm »

OEM tires, no matter who makes them, are not as good as the same brands regular retail tires. 48Kms is not so bad for OEM tires. Be happy your rid of them and get better ones now. The glass is half full, not half empty.

HeliDriver · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2005, 01:21:30 am »

Like Ovr said, 48,000 kms isn't really that bad. Could be better, but could be lots worse, too.

Also, don't be so quick to assume that all Toyos are junk. Pick any high-prestige tire manufacturer (Michelin, Bridgestone, Pirelli, etc....), and you will find that each one makes plenty of horrible tires that are installed as original equipment on new cars.

random006 · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2005, 06:24:58 am »

Shawna,

Welcome to the Forum.

Out of curiosity, with which brand/model of tire did you replace the Toyos? For that matter, which model of Toyo tire were the originals?

(Message edited by random006 on June 15, 2005)

RayT · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2005, 09:48:07 am »

Shawna,

Your Mazda 3 is a sporty compact car, (Zoom Zoom right?), and usually sportier cars use tires that are designed for better performance. Better performance means a softer rubber that sticks better to the road. Softer rubber also means the tire wears out faster. You can get longer lasting tires but they will also use a harder longer wearing compound, it's a tradeoff! You can't have it both ways. For example, some of us on this forum use expensive high performance sport tires, and with those, we'd be lucky if they lasted 25000 km!

Also, the above poster is right, the OEM tires that come with the car are rarely any good. So now you can choose a better tire.

wing · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2005, 09:58:58 am »

yes Ray is correct, I suspect the Mazda 3 has somewhat sporty tires.

The average person doesn't really know much about tires (and I don't blame them), a lot of the advertising you see on TV says they last 120,000Km + but only a select few actually do and those tires are usually HORRIBLE for grip (IE Safety). I'm lucky if my tires last 25000km!

tenpenny · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2005, 10:27:06 am »

"I'm lucky if my tires last 25000km"

But we've seen video of your driving, so we know what the story is there!!!!!

weebl · « **Reply #7 on:** June 15, 2005, 10:49:26 am »

48,000 is okay for OEM junk tires. It's a blessing in disguise for you that you had to get rid of them already. I hope you have got yourself a nice set of replacements, or if you haven't bought them already, give us some insight into how/where you drive your car, what you expect out of your tires, and among all of us here, we can come up with some choices that will keep you happy for a long time!

shawna · « **Reply #8 on:** June 15, 2005, 10:25:32 pm »

Thanks for replying everyone. This is a great site to get info. on my car.
I still haven't got new tires yet, anyone have any suggestions on what I should purchase.

weebl · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2005, 10:49:31 am »

One tire I really like what I've been hearing about lately is the BF Goodrich Traction T/A (in V speed rating for the Mazda3). They have claimed reasonably long treadlife, good handling for fairly aggressive driving, excellent in the dry and rain. Are there any special characteristics you are looking for in your replacement tire. These will probably be one of the choices that positively maximizes the car's designed handling characteristics.

Be sure you match the OEM speed rating (which I believe is "V" for the Mazda 3). The reason you want to do this is not so much the top speed the tire is capable of, but rather the construction characteristics that are used in achieving that speed rating (most notably sidewall stiffness and construction). Lower speed rated tires will seem "softer" and can negatively affect handling, in extreme cases may even make the car somewhat dangerous in an emergency maneuver.

The other nice thing about these tires is that they are widely available through many different outlets, and have a very competitive price for the type of tire they are - I think they are a really hard to beat value.

morty · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2005, 02:33:20 pm »

I posted a comment in another thread already, but will redo here...common complaint. OE tires are produced to the vehicle manufacturer's specs not the tire manufacturer. What you have effecting the tire is the fact that they must meet fuel economy and rolling resistance figures required by both the US and Canada. What they will do is adjust the rubber compound to include more silica, which will reduce the rolling resistance of the tire, but decrease how long it lasts. In most cases this will mean that the OE version of a tire will not perform as good as the same tire offered as an aftermarket product.

Your complaint is a common one. The unfortunate thing is that it reflects poorly on the tire manufacturer's aftermarket tires. In your case this is Toyo. Toyo makes some fantastic tires and this is something that happens with most manufacturers that produce original equipment tires. That being said 48,000 isnt too bad for a performance type OE tire. In an aftermarket tire 80000km would be an example of good tread life.

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