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« on: June 11, 2005, 11:13:36 pm »
Hey guys,

How is everyone? As some of you may know, I stored my 95' Integra last winter. I filled up the gas tank as recommended by a mechanic last December. My car has been on the road for about a month and a half now.  First thing I did was had a Spring tune up. I've noticed the performance is sluggush and the only thing I can think of is the gas that's been sitting in my the tank for over 5 months. I've been driving my car quite abit to try to empty the tank. I also drive my beater all year around as well. So, the tank was close to a quarter tank left and I decided to put $10 of 94' Octane in the tank to mix in with the old gas. It's still sluggush.  I feel the car doesn't want to go past 3rd gear.  Does anyone have any ideas what could be the problem or what I should do?  Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 12:36:01 am »
Not sure what your problem is, but it's not the gas. I have left many cars sit with gas for months and never a problem on start-up. Must be another problem, but I'm no mechanic.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 12:41:37 am »
How is everyone? Same

Did you add a fuel stabillizer to the tank before storage? No?  You need to fill the tank full with fresh gas.  91 would be fine.  $10. is about 10 litres of 94 and that is only 2 1/2 gallons and that might not be enough.

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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 01:33:02 am »
Hey Steve, no I did not add a fuel stabilizer to the tank before storage. No one told me that. :-(  
Ok, I will fill the tank.

That's a loaded question. Well, I found a shop that will be doing the work. I've been having a hard time deciding on what type of silver I want. I'm not going to do anything drastic on it because I won't be having them paint the inside, that will cost alot more money. I just want more metallic with a hint of grey. So the bodyshop owner suggested I visit a few dealerships and see if there's any colour I like. I picked out a few, but they turned out to be more on the brown side. So, I'm sticking with the current Acura silver paint that they use now for all their line.  He's going to mix abit of the paint on Monday and line it up with my car. If it's not too far off, then it's a go!!!

Oh, btw, I bought a used 93' white hood for my beater car because my old hood had a huge rust spot on it and there was a hole.  I have to get that sucker painted to match my blue car.  Everyone on another forum suggested I take it to Maaco for a cheapy job.  What are your thoughts on Maaco?  I've heard horror stories about them.

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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 10:07:38 am »
Never hold old gas in yer tank !!!!!
'specially a VW...it could lead to PHARTFERNUGGINS.......  awkward at social occassions........
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2005, 12:32:30 pm »
You!  Back on your meds!

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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2005, 01:01:12 pm »
I never got off my meds!!

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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2005, 10:32:00 pm »
Safristi, with the price of gas these days, I'm carefull how I release mine.
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2005, 11:03:53 pm »
Susan I think you should fill the gas tank up with premium fuel and go for a good run with it. Probably around an hour on the highway will blow out the carbon and move any stale fuel along. Probably be fine with some good milage on it.

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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2005, 11:22:46 am »
Hey Barrie,

Yeah, I think I will do just that and hopefully that does the trick.  Someone told me to pour a bottle a fuel injector cleaner after I fill up the tank. But I've heard mixed reviews of fuel injector cleaners. I had my fuel injector cleaned at my dealership last summer, so am I ok for now?

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2005, 11:32:42 am »
After you're certain that you have burned (or at least dilluted) the old gas, I would suggest that she have a new fuel filter installed.  The bad gas may have clogged up the filter.

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2005, 01:32:58 pm »
Use reg. unleaded gas. it's fresher thanthe hi-test.  Current fuels break down quicker than gas of old that had lead.  If o;d gas is clogging up your fuel filter it would be called very bad gas and I first in my books.  It could also be ign?
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2005, 01:38:15 pm »
Mrthompson,  my tanks is just under a quarter tank after I put $10 of 94' Octane gas.  So, you think I should get a new fuel filter?


Ericthejet, I thought the higher octane gas was cleaner than the regular unleaded gas?  Bad ign?

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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2005, 01:45:48 pm »
If the problem persists, I would get a new fuel filter, IMHO.

Fuel filters generally cost under $20, plus any shop time to install.  I would suggest you have a shop install the fuel filter as it can be rather messy changing one.

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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2005, 01:48:30 pm »
Ok great, thanks for the advice.  Hopefully the problem corrects itself, if not, then I'll get a new fuel filter.  Thanks. :-)

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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2005, 01:50:29 pm »
I'm far from being a mechanic, but I feel the fuel filter is a cheap replacement part that might solve your problem.  Even if not, it at least should give you smoother throttle response.

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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 02:40:59 pm »
It depends on where the fuel filter is located as some of them are inline down at the back of the car and some are under the hood. I suspect the car will run better with some fresh fuel, and possibly a can of injector cleaner. Gas can go stale and leave a coating of a Gum like substance in the fuel areas so on occasion useing the fuel injector cleaner is alright to do.

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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 02:58:57 pm »
Use reg. unleaded gas. it's fresher thanthe hi-test.

But the issue here is to also raise the octane because the 87 that was left in the tank for the past 5 months will be depleted hence you need more than 87 to build it back up.

I hesitated on mentioning the gas stabilizer because frankly it doesn't effect cars as much as it does 2 strokes with tiny jets and such.  I use the stuff in everything, but I never really know how long my equipment is going to sit unused. If your gas gummed, all your fuel system would be in trouble.  If your fuel filter is recent I would leave it alone.  Fill to the top and get some hours on it.

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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 06:57:05 pm »
Fresh gas is the key here.  Unleaded gas loses its "bang" much quicker than old leaded gas.  Also, unleaded gas leaves greater residue on all those small bits.  If the fuel flows just fine in the lower gears as mentioned then I would think that fuel flow/octane is not at issue.  All gas is made up of the same stuff except higher test fuel.. It's higher octane rating is to control the "burn" of the fuel, used mostly in higher compression engines.  I get better fuel economy with normal unleaded gas than hi-test and regular actually is fresher than hi-test.  If you do a bit of reading of fuel grades you'll discover a few interseting tidbits of info.  I run the normal unleaded in my motorcycle without any pings or detonation so there is no need to raise the fuel grade or increase octane.  The engines in 90% of the cars running the roads only require reg. unleaded gasoline.  

"The octane rating is basically an anti-knock rating. Engine "knock" is also sometimes referred to as "ping". It is basically pre-detonation of the fuel before the piston is in the correct position (either near top of it's stroke or on its way down on the power stroke). Ping occurs while the piston is on the upstroke. Essentially, it is the elevated combustion cylinder temperature mixed with the now elevated cylinder pressure (compression) that will cause fuel it ignite without the spark."


I suspected your ignition due to the sitting around for 5 mos. part of your comments.  I would apply a little dab of dielectric grease to all connection points of the ign. system.

Octane cannot increase power, but an engine designed to run hi-test will already be a greater power producer and will require hi-test .
" Although octane itself does not improve power it does allow greater cylinder pressure to be tolerated in the design or modification of an engine, thus allowing it to produce more power while staying in one piece."

You want more power from you gas, start adding oxyagen. :-)

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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2005, 07:02:00 pm »
Last word on octane,

High octane fuel
is a waste of money except for the following situations: Very old motors
designed to run on higher octane fuel stock, Modified compression on  
your stock engine, seriously advanced timing on stock engine, turbo or
supercharger on engine and you want to run higher levels of boost, or  
engine with lot's of miles that has carbon deposits built up in the cylinders  
which creates hot spots or raised compression which leads to detonation.
The higher the octane the less energy in the fuel, lower octane fuel burns more  
explosively and quickly.