Diesel Teaser Daimler 3.0 CRD?

[ktm525]

Now I really want one. Please Daimler wake up and stick this in some North American products. It may even make me overlook the new homely Dakota.

"...The Grand Cherokee is also now blessed with a fine range of engines.  In place of the tired old 2.8 CRD comes a new Mercedes-sourced three-litre V6 turbodiesel, which is expected to account for 85 per cent of sales. With 218bhp and 376lb ft of torque, it combines effortless thrust with first class refinement and acceptable fuel consumption (27.7mpg)."  

Me wanty.

[chrischasescars]

Isn't the 2.8 CRD the diesel offered in the Liberty here? So we're basically getting a hand-me-down motor instead of the latest diesel tech?

Dammit, I want to move to Europe.

[ktm525]

The new 3.0L CRD is replacing the 2.8L  this year. The article describes the 2.8L as archaic.

[turbodiesel]

Grand Cherokee should get diesel too...

by the way the Euro-spec taillights are nice ^^

[A4_tom]

I only wish 300/Magnum would get CRD too.

[froggy]

Stickshift, you want to move to Europe?
Wait till you see the price of your Jeep, the price of gas and the general cost of living there and you'll be happy with the old tired 2.8...

[66coronet]

Apperently you are getting wrong information. Grand Cherokee diesel history is renault 2.5L TD 1994-2001, 1999-2002 detroit diesel 3.1L TD I-5, 2002-2004 mercedes 2.7L crd.  
http://www.motoring.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=751&fArticleId=231100
It's true that the new 2006 grand cherokee is getting the 3.0Lcrd. But so far it hasn't been anounced which version or both versions. 190hp 425lb-ft/440Nm or the 224hp 376lb-ft/510Nm.  
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102383

As for the 2.8L crd. It's a detroit diesel / VM motor that grew out of the VM 2.5L that was introduced to the cherokee(liberty body) 2003. Previously the cherokee 1994-2001 used a renault 2.5LTD. The VM 2.8L crd started in the european cherokee in 2004. Currently you can by both VM 2.5Lcrd or VM 2.8Lcrd in europe. The US VM 2.8L crd is different than the european VM 2.8L crd. The injection system is different.  
http://www.swiftindavis.com/sblog/?itemid=361
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102285
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101031
http://www.whnet.com/4x4/diesel.html

[66coronet]

As for the MB 2.7L CRD I-5. It's not that old. MB Sprinter got it in 2000 model (1999). So it's just 6 years old and it's being replaced soon with the V-6 3.0L crd 190hp 325lb-ft.
http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/9323/sprinter2000.htm#cdi

Note: what I put down earlier was 425lb-ft was a typing error. 325lb-ft/440Nm is correct.

As you know. The 2.7L crd spread throughout the lines. C & E & ML class.

[ktm525]

66: So the 2.8L was never in the Grand Cherokee? I just cribbed that whole statement from some British mag. Either way I wthink that 3.0CRD would be a very nice addition to the Dakota/Cherokee/Durango in the N/A market.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Thanks for the info 66 Coronet, and welcome to the site!

[66coronet]

Just visiting. I'm normally at http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?act=SF&f=18 .  
Here is a similar topic.
http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58958

[66coronet]

Here is a little something I typed up for allpar to change on their diesel engine section. But so far they've been too busy to add it on.

2003-2005 Pt cruiser (classic, touring, Limited) 5sp 2.2L crd (MB OM664 crd
16 valve, IHI turbo) 119hp(84kW)/4200 221lb-ft (300Nm)/1600 18:1
compression
city= 25.8mpg highway= 42mpg combined= 34.1mpg top speed 114mph
0-62= 12.1sec

2003-2005 Voyager VM 2.5L crd 141hp/4000 251 lb-ft/2000 DOHC 16 valve
5sp manual 0-62= 11.9sec max 115mph city= 28.5mpg highway=
44.1mpg combined= 36.7mpg

2005 Voyager VM 2.8L crd 150hp/3800 265lb-ft/2100 DOHC 16 valve
17.5:1 compression
4sp auto 0-62= 12sec max112 city= 25mpg highway= 32.8mpg
compined= 29.4mpg

2005 grandvoyager (limited, LX, limited XS) VM 2.8L crd 4sp auto city=
24.6mpg highway= 32.3mpg combined= 28.9mpg 0-62= 12.0 sec


1987-1993 cherokee Renault 2.1L TD 85hp 115lb-ft 26mpg city 32mpg
highway

1994-2001 cherokee & grand cherokee Renault 2.5L TD 5sp manual 115hp
300Nm/221lb-ft

2003-2005 cherokee (liberty) sport VM 2.5L crd I-4 5sp manual 141hp/4000
251 lb-ft/2000-2400 17.5:1 compression
0-62= 13.5sec city= 24.1mpg highway= 37.7mpg combined= 31.4mpg

2004-2005 cherokee (liberty) 4X4 I-4 5 sp auto (extreme sport, sport ,
limited) VM 2.8L crd VGT 148hp/3800 266lb-ft/1800-2600
17.5:1 compression 0-62= 12.6sec city= 22.2mpg highway= 34.4mpg
combined= 28.5mpg

1999-2002 grand cherokee I-5 VM 3.1L TD 0-60/13.5 sec

2002-2004 grand cherokee MB 2.7L crd I-5 (sport, limited, overland) 5sp
auto 161hp4000 295lb-ft/1800-2600 18:1 compression
0-62= 11.2sec city= 22.6mpg highway= 34.9mpg combined= 29.1mpg