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« on: May 27, 2005, 10:12:07 am »
Anyone on this forum have any experience with this car? What is the actual mileage you get are they troublefree?

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« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2005, 10:20:41 am »
Everything I have seen so far in regards to Hybrids seems to suggest that the technology is there but as with most new things they haven't quite got all the bugs out yet.
The fuel economy ratings on most of the tests
I have seen don't live upto the expectations.
Remeber when fuel injection first came out?  
How about the feedback or variable venti carb?
This is a major big deal and I for one don't want to play test pilot with my money.
But I am sure that someday they will be very good reliable vehicles...right now??? too soon to tell.
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« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2005, 10:32:40 am »
To paraphrase a certain movie character:

"Mileage is as mileage does."


Based on what I have read, the following are good rules by which to drive:

To even get near the posted numbers, you have to drive very modestly:
1)  DON'T accelerate suddenly and hard.
2)  DON'T come to screeching stops, losing all momentum.
3)  DO stay within speed limits.
4)  DO accelerate slowly up to a reasonable speed and - if at all possible - maintain that speed.
5)  DO coast or gently break to a stop if you see the light ahead is red.  With any luck, it will be green by the time you get there and you can use existing momentum to efficiently get up to speed.

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« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2005, 10:37:47 am »
Just pretend you driving with a full glass of water in your lap…..sounds like fun

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« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2005, 10:57:57 am »
If you're driving downtown in completely stop to crawl traffic, the hybrid makes a lot of sense. You won't want the car 9 years down the road if the batteries need replacement, but for a few years it would be very good.  

Resale is high for the first few years too.

Mileage on the highway or in everyday isn't as great as the numbers on the window, but it's still better than a Civic/Corolla but a little bit. But you're paying thousands more.  

As for reliability, it has been exceptional. There have been cases where the car wouldn't start when you press the button, but if pressed again it would. That sort of thing. Overall, quality and reliability have been top notch though. Obviously the spotlight would be on this new technology, and Toyota made sure to do it right.

Quality isn't a worry for me.

It's just:
- at $30Gs, it's much more than the econocars or diesels which offer only slightly less fuel economy. The main environmental benefit of the hybrid beyond mileage is the reduction in emissions coming out the tailpipe.  
- It IS a hatchback tho, which provides more versatility than the small Corolla.
- If traveling on the highway/on trips, the Prius is a very light car and the car isn't as composed on the road as some other cars. Might get tossed around more and just isn't as buttoned down.
- If you're planning to keep the car for many years or kilometers, the cost of battery replacement is largely unknown (estimated to be about $5,500 - $9,000)

I had considered a Prius myself. If you're an urban dweller, spend lots of time in traffic, and like the car then it's worth serious consideration.
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« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2005, 11:25:50 am »
I presently have a 2000 corolla that gets fairly good mileage, but does not have a lot of leg room for back seat passengers. This was why i was considering the prius, a bit more room and good gas mileage. I don't think I could recoup the costs of the prius over the short term. The battery issue kind of scares me too.

Maybe I should consider the newer corolla , the backseat passenger room is better than my present corolla. They also say the fuel mileage is better as well. Presently i get 28 mpg in city driving and mid forties on the highway. Not bad but should be able to get better.

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« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2005, 11:45:26 am »
RedRooster...stay with the newer Corolla..the Prius is being hammered for it's sloppy ride and handling and poor power as well.Read around.
            It was taken on by the Hollywood/greenies prolly at Toyota expense(many drove up to the Oscars in one!!!) and got good buzz in the NON _AUTOMOTIVE PRESS (read that again!!!) as a "Saviour of Energy"...any time yer local rag or the "TIMES" papers dish that one out duck.......to me it's in the SMART CAR realm..functional around Cities for non enthusiasts(Suppose that would be a huge market..but Hybrids are less than 3% of sales) so maybe even the "greenies" VOTE with their pocket book.
   They are in the same class as the vehicles MOST of us here drool about...the FUN,FAST,HANDLING machines...and THEY start at less than $20K and work their way up to the Stratosphere BUT won't interest many commuter,grocery getter,destination drivers a small percentage of AUTO SALES...so to each his own....
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« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2005, 12:52:45 pm »
If you want performance in a hybrid for similar price of Prius, I would take a serious look at Accord.

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« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2005, 01:36:13 pm »



I wouldn't.

The Accord hybrid is more about performance than fuel economy.

As an alternative to a Prius, I would look at the Jetta TDI or a Corolla, Accord 4-cylinder, etc.

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« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2005, 09:47:56 pm »
i can give you some first hand experiences in about 4 weeks. The father of a good friend of mine has just orded one and I intend to find out what all the hype is about.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2005, 10:42:36 am »
I'll look forward to your review. There has been one sitting at a local dealer for several months [blue in colour]. Of course toyota does not deal on price so you have to try and make it on your trade.

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« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2005, 12:29:47 pm »



I've only had the first gen Prius on loan when I worked at TCI. It was right-hand-drive as well - pretty odd to drive. But even back then when the batteries were meagre and such, the car was pretty neat and HQ.

The new one looks to be very interesting. Just, I'd never plan to own one for longer than 4 years because of battery issues.