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« on: May 24, 2005, 02:31:28 pm »
BMW M-series purists won't be happy, just like the Porsche fans when the Cayenne came out.



http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102389

M-badged SUVs? BMW considering expansion of high-performance unit’s model lineup

JENS MEINERS | Automotive News Europe
Posted Date: 5/17/05
MUNICH – BMW could expand its M range of high-performance cars into SUVs and other models.

The X5 and X3 premium SUV models are possible contenders for new M variants, as are the 5 Series station wagon and the Z4 roadster.

Extending the M range would spell the end of the purist approach that the M division has followed since it launched its first car, the 1978 M1. This was a supercar co-developed with Lamborghini and styled by Italdesign Giugiaro.

Currently, BMW sells the M3, M5 and M6.

“We have great potential to go into new segments with M models,” said M division CEO Ulrich Bruhnke.

Bruhnke said the success of the X3 and X5 SUVs shows that BMW can break out of its traditional segments.

No M badge for 1 Series

“If we were asked to do such a model [an M-badged SUV], I am convinced we could do it,” he said.

Bruhnke feels there is room at the top of the X5 range for an M model. The current high-performance model would not be considered for an M-badge, he said.

An M-version of the 1 Series is unlikely, because it is not offered in the U.S., where half of BMW’s M models are sold, Bruhnke said.

Even with an expansion of the lineup, an M model will never be just a higher-powered BMW, said Bruhnke.

“We don’t do labeling. M models cannot be just a variation. Handling and dynamic behavior are as important as linear acceleration,” he said.

BMW’s M division employs 500 people. Between 1978 and 2004, BMW built 228,454 M models. More than 70 percent were M3 cars.

The company does not disclose the M division’s profitability. But making a profit is not the only reason for the unit’s existence.

It gives BMW cars that highlight the automaker’s core value, which is to build cars that deliver performance and agile handling.

M models also serve as a test platform for new technologies, such as carbon-fiber applications:

“We are a small experimental field for BMW,” said Bruhnke.

Bruhnke, 50, took over BMW’s M unit in December 2003 after previous head Adolf Prommesberger retired. Earlier, Bruhnke ran Mercedes-Benz’s AMG high-performance division, where he raised AMG’s sales to 24,000 units from 10,500.

BMW has not yet decided how to expand the M range. Said Bruhnke: “It’s very comfortable to have more ideas than capacity.”

A broadening of the M range could also eventually lead to a future mid-engined supercar in the tradition of the M1, Bruhnke said.

BMW displayed a 700hp V-12 concept X5 at the Geneva auto show in 2000. Said Bruhnke: “This showed what an M car based on the X5 could look like.”

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2005, 04:01:54 pm »
At the same time the NA love affair for SUV begins to cool!!

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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2005, 04:33:20 pm »
M5 Wagon would be very tasty!

I'd like an M3 wagon, or even a 330 wagon if they could see to making one (or in the case of the 330 importing it).
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2005, 05:37:24 pm »
I thought the reason of not calling current X5 4.6/4.8iS is because of the MX-5 name patented by Mazda, not that those fast utes aren't worthy of BMW Motorsport badge.

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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2005, 08:06:47 pm »
fifth gear did a comparison test x5 (pre m) vs cayenne S - the x5 was a better handler, still lots of understeer but the cayenne S understeer was horrible. remember the cayenne S is on the same platform of the toureg - dont expect wonders ppl
man and u thought suv drank petro b4 - with the new M badges, u will be needing to tow a tanker that feeds ur engine as u drive

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« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2005, 08:55:25 pm »
well if they buy mazda, then they can have the mx5!! lolz
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« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2005, 10:54:20 pm »
AND, if they buy every single automaker that exists, they can use any name they want! lolz

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« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2005, 11:02:53 pm »
But surely none of them like to sue others for name as much as Nissan.

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