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Nissan Pathfinder - Drive train slack
« on: April 19, 2005, 01:26:51 pm »
I recently aquired a 2001 Nissan Pathfinder, 25,000 km.  I thought the drive train had too much play.  Originally dealer agreed.  Dealer replaced differential twice, drive shaft once and checked other sources.  No change. Compared with 2003 model - same excessive play.  Now dealer says it it "normal".  Still "thunks" from de-acceleration to acceleration and visa versa to a lesser degree.
Doesn't sound right to me.  Has anyone else encounter this problem?

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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2005, 01:38:59 pm »
Does the Pathfinder use a slip yoke at the output of the transfer case for the rear drive shaft?  

The slip yoke, in this case, is a splined stub shaft that inserts into a splined sleeve in the transfer case.  The splined shaft gets 'bound up' from time to time upon transfering from deceleration to acceleration.  The splines can be greased to help prevent this.  I had this problem with my Cherokee.

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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2005, 01:43:14 pm »
apparently Dealer did use some special grease on one of their attempts to cure so I would assume the problem you speak of has been addressed.  Thanks.

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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2005, 01:47:29 pm »
Most true 4x4's (having a proper transfer case) will have some slack in the drivetrain.  It can be annoying, but in most cases it is normal.

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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2005, 01:50:59 pm »
Well, it does have a transfer case for four wheel drive so maybe it is normal but I if so I think Nissan should go back to the drawing board.

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2005, 02:04:30 pm »
AFAIK, some slack is required with the typical four wheel drive system in order to prevent binding on hard packed surfaces, or when turning.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2005, 10:22:54 pm »
Back in the early '80's, every Ford F-150 would clunk if the foot was taken off the accelerator.   Too loud of a clunk is not normal but Mr. T is right - some play is necessary.  If there was no play what-so-ever there would be a lot of stress on your driveline, esp. when cornering as most SUV’s have relatively short wheelbases. The driveshaft on my 2001 Cherokee (145K) can be moved a couple of millimetres by simply crawling under the truck gripping the driveshaft and wiggling it.  An independant mechanic might give you an objective opinion.

Every vehicle has its idiosyncrasies and 4x4s are especially prone to odd driveline noises because they have 10x the number of moving parts then any FWD car.  Aside from the parts you’ve mentioned you could also check u-joints, CV joints even the rear differential.  As long as they don't leave me stranded, I've just given up and accepted mine.  I’m not going to fix any intermittent noises until a failure manifests itself or appears to be on the verge of an imminent failure.  I’ve got a couple odd intermittent driveline creaks that came with the vehicle that haven’t gotten any worse after 30K so I’m not touching them.  I suspect it is more annoying than anything.  A well-maintained Pathy should give you 300K

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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2005, 11:06:46 pm »
I would have the U-joints checked as that is where the stress is placed on the drive train. Make sure they are lubed with a good water proof grease such as Accu-Lube. Its around $12.00 a tube and will last almost 50 times longer then the normal light weight grease. It will run quieter as well. This is a product I have used for years now and have never replaced a U-joint or a front end part since. It also works extrememly well on trailor bearings also. They use this product under water but try it on your vehicle as its the best I have ever used in 51 years of auto maintenance.  

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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2005, 11:00:50 am »
Thanks fellas.  I guess I will have to put up with it - maybe I will try out a Toyota Highlander.

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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2005, 07:54:34 pm »
For a fair comparison you should try a 4Runner, as the Highlander does not have a transfer case to my knowledge.

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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2005, 06:59:56 pm »
The problem may very well be in the rear control arms (long forward/aft links that run form the diff to the body).
The arms may be bent or the bushings are worn out.
I have seen many of these; allows the diff to twist alot and feels like driveline slack.
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Nissan Pathfinder - Drive train slack
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2005, 07:17:28 pm »
"The slip yoke, in this case, is a splined stub shaft that inserts into a splined sleeve in the transfer case. The splined shaft gets 'bound up' from time to time upon transfering from deceleration to acceleration. The splines can be greased to help prevent this."



Not touching that one.  Nope.  Not me.  Nuh-uh...

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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2005, 07:31:38 pm »

The other question I have is which trim level is your Pathfinder?
The base ones have a p/t transfer case and the SE/LE ones use the fully automatic system which is very different from the p/t system.
Assuming this is a driveline problem...I tend to lean towards the rear suspension issue that I posted earlier.

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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2005, 09:08:06 am »
Mmmmm a little TRIM...where's Eddy!!!????...
  NOW sherioushlly thou' ..Welcome  Nissansmall parts...we appreciate yer input..but it's May "24" weekend..and ALL the LOSERS are in Lock_up or freezin' their asses off at campsites...
   Call us Tuesday...NO make that Thursday mornin'.....
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2005, 12:36:49 pm »

May two-four....omg....duh!
Thing is...the weather is sucky...so what else  
can I do.
I'm moving in 2 wks so I guess I can pack some more boxes...any takers/helpers...LOL