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"Ricer"... Does this term offend anybody else?
« on: April 17, 2005, 09:52:25 pm »
I have read several posts using the term "ricer" to describe a Japanese brand of car. In this day and age, when people are so sensitive about being politically correct, doesn't anybody else object to this terminology? I read someone getting severely chastised for using the term "japanese car" but how is "ricer" any different? If a car was made in India, and someone called it a "currymobile" wouldn't people flip out and take offense? I say lose the term "ricer" (or "rice rocket" when talking about a Japanese motorcycle) especially since so many of these products are assembled and engineered in North America.

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 10:11:23 pm »
Rice should be reserved for Chinese cars, use Sushi for Japanese cars.
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 10:12:42 pm »
You're right.  But I personally don't take pain from that term.  The term 'ricer' may have originally mean't 'sport import', but now really just means 'sport compact' - which is borderless.  - ex. SRT-4 would be called a ricer / sport compact

It's not like 'ricers' are solely a condesending term too.  RSX-S', Supras, RX-7's and numerous other cars are the envy of many.  That said, I do have a thing agains't the all-show-no-go "ricers"...

Again, you're right that the currymobile term would never fly, and I wouldn't mind seeing people involved in the tuning world broadening their vocabularies as well.


Final word: I only really have a problem with the word in the hands of 'haters'

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 11:29:34 pm »
I have read several posts using the term "ricer" to describe a Japanese brand of car.

Dude, you haven't got the slightest clue what a 'ricer' is, do you? What does R.I.C.E stand for? It has been posted.  


You Might Be A Ricer If…

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You have more exhaust decibels than your engine has horsepower.  
You have aftermarket FRONT wheels for racing but stock rear wheels.  
Your engine makes twice as much horsepower as torque.  
17" rims up front, 13" out back on your FWD.  
You ever painted your wheels to match the same color of your car.  
You put your automatic car in neutral at every stoplight in order to roll it back and try to fool other people into thinking you have a manual transmission  
DuPont gave up trying to figure out the shade you were asking for.  
Your mod list includes stereo equipment, shifter handle, MOMO steering wheel, PIA driving lights, exhaust tip, but no REAL engine parts.  
A chameleon lizard undergoes fewer shade changes than your custom paint scheme.  
Your rims and tires are so large, that you have to install the tire / wheel from underneath the car because it simply won't fit in the wheel well going in from the side.  
The dealer laughs when you bring your car back in for service under warranty, and you've only had it 6 months...  
Your tires / rims stick out from the lip of your car by more than 1."  
Your paint job is from the WRONG end of the color spectrum.  
You installed spacers on your STOCK wheels and tires to get them to stick out past the fender.  
You see cars like yours in a Shriner's Parade for Children and clowns are driving them.  
You bring an empty Maxwell House coffee can with you to compare size when you shop for an aftermarket exhaust system.  
Your Eclipse GS-T hardtop has a "SPYDER" emblem on the rear...  
Your sum knowledge of suspension is: "the more negative camber, the better the handling."  
You push your car through the staging lanes.  That way, maybe you can break into the 16s by keeping the motor cool between runs.  
You add a super tall rear wing, and a hundred pounds of aftermarket ground effects, neon and stereo yet you gut the interior and yank out the rear seat for weight savings.  
Your rear wing AND your rear window have a third mount brake light...  
The back lighting in the gauges in your A-pillar gauge pod work long before the actual gauges are hooked up.  
You cut 4 coil springs and scrape the chassis on the ground. Sparks are cool when you corner at normal traffic speeds!  
You have to find a way to drive AROUND speed bumps in a parking lot.  
You install clear corner and brake lights.  
You install colored bulbs in your aftermarket clear lenses.  
You ever put neon on the bottom of your car, and then busted it on the first speed bump you went over.  
You painted the UNDERBODY of your car to match  
If your rear spoiler is taller then you are.  
if you can fit fist fack your exhaust tip  
You have more stereo WATTS than engine TORQUE!  
If your tailpipe extension is the most expensive mod you’ve done to your engine yet.  
Your tailpipe extension fell off during a quarter mile race and you went three tenths of a second faster due to weight savings.  
EVERY car in your class has a turbo pushing double digits worth of boost.  
You spent $5,000 on the engine and you can not out run a stock Camaro, Firebird, or Mustang  
You want the 'wastegate' sound, but don't want to install a turbocharger system.  
You think Nitrous Oxide on your Hyundai Sonata puts you in the same performance league as the Chevy Corvette.  
The automatic version of your car runs 2 seconds slower in the 1/4mile.  
If the 1970 Plymouth Daytona Superbird has a smaller spoiler than your car does.  
You think the Del Sol is a sports car...  
A torque converter does NOTHING for your car.  
You think a deep farty noise = the sound of high performance  
If you think that horsepower is far more important than torque  
If you have ever claimed that switching to a cone filter has given you more than 5 HP.  
If you have ever considered installing more than one set of fog / driving lights.  
If you claim that the aftermarket cold air intake system you just installed doubled your horsepower or took 2 or more seconds off of your E/T.  
Your baseball cap is always on backwards when you drive (the first sign of mental retardation, wearing your clothes backwards... BE).  
You spent all night on the Internet trying to find a company that makes a turbocharger system for your Hyundai...  
If you removed your side view mirrors and put them at the TOP of the door / window frame.  
If you think the Fugees are 'speed' music.  
MOMO is 'absolutely required' to go fast.  
Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed.  
Your four cylinder has four exhaust pipes ("Hey, one for each cylinder!")  
The color of your interior upholstery hurts the cones and rods in other people's eyes.  
If you cannot drive your car in snow as the ground effects create a plow effect.  
If you have installed driving lights to compensate for headlight blackouts / tape.  
If you think that 180 horsepower and 185 lb/ft of torque are impressive for a ‘mildly’ modified engine.  
If you have stickers on your car for parts that you could not point out if asked where those parts are installed.  
You think pushrods are a bad thing…  
Your car has more decals than you do the quarter in seconds.  
Every Honda you EVER owned, all the way back to your 1978 Accord was either a V-Tec or a TYPE-R.  
You took your rear seat out and gutted your interior for weight savings but you installed 400 pounds of electronics, neon, DVD, Sony, etc.  
If you gutted the interior to save weight on a car that you will never take to the track…  
You lean your seat so far back when you are driving, that every time you hit a bump, its your back and not your butt that hurts.  
You have hydraulics and sixteen switches on a car you claim runs low 10s on the street and corners better than a Porsche.  
If you can estimate that your car makes more than 250 HP without ever running it at the track or getting a dyno reading.  
You claim that you can get a titanium block for your engine.  
If you have ever thought Hyundai and "performance" went hand in hand  
If you've ever gone to a parts shop or speed warehouse and asked for a 1" to 6" exhaust adapter...  
If you've ever contemplated adding "TYPE-R" stickers to your Sonata…  
If you've removed more than 1/2 of the coils from your springs by cutting them yourself ...  
If you have more neon lights on your car than a strip club...  
You put Kanji on your Ford ZX2, Ford Probe, or Mercury Cougar ...  
You own a "TYPE-R" Hyundai or Mazda.  
You couldn't afford headlight masking, so you just painted them with flat black Krylon and it's peeling.  Badly.  
You claim that polishing your intake gave you 5hp.  
You own a V-TEC Hyundai or Mazda (especially a V-TEC rotary engined Mazda RX-7)  
You have neon INSIDE your car or in your ENGINE compartment  
You ever claimed that high gas mileage made your car superior in performance to V8s.  
If it takes you 8000rpm to reach 30mph from a dead stop at WOT.  
You think yellow plastic interior trim makes your car cool  
You spend $500 for a giant hand welded tube for a muffler with the weld marks extremely visible  
If you paint your drum brakes to simulate Hi-po calipers  
If you install fake hi-po caliper / disc simulators  
You have a front wing.  
If you lower your car and add ground effects but retain the stock 14inch wheels with disc style wheel covers  
If you equate the sound of performance with the sound of a Weed Eater™  
If you think bolting a fake muffler to one side to simulate dual exhaust is cool  
If you think colored head lights work better  
Clear tail lights and turn signals. They’re colored for a REASON!  
If you take mom's 4 door Honda accord and do any kind of mod to it  
You drive a Ford Escort station wagon with Kanji, wide tires, and Limp Bizkit stickers on the rear hatch  
You claim you lost the race because you had a passenger in the car.  
You claim how if you went from a roll you would have beat him.  
You claim you lost because you missed a shift... and your car is an automatic.  
You claim you lost because he must have been on the juice..  
Flying past the person who is 10 car lengths in front of you after they have put on their brakes.. and claim a victory.  
after losing you flip your opponent off... rev your motor and fail to break the wheels loose even around a corner.  
Tell everyone about how you lost the cop because of your "driving skills."  
you are a white kid driving an import.. wear baggy pants/hat turned around, walk with a fake limp and end every sentence with "yew know wha I'm sayin?  Relate."  
Your idea of aiming a handgun is raising your arm over your head, pointing the gun away from you, and then just letting your wrist fall to the side to where the gun is almost sideways ...  
drive around in a $20,000 import with $10,000 in mods.. and still live with your parents.  
You can relate to every line of the song "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" by the Offspring  
you take offense when I say.. "your sister is like your car.. small, tight and hard to get into."  
You are a skinny, backwards hat wearing, dog chain wallet, 2 ft wide pants leg, Limp Bizkit looking white boy fag with a badly applied peroxide hair color treatment  and temporary rub-on tattoos!
 

You've spent more on graphics and decals than you have in gas, for the whole year  

You sound like you're going 90, but you're creeping past 25  

You upgraded to the "big bore" 2 inch exhaust  

You lose 2 mpg by installing a body kit  

Your wing is so large that if you go faster than 65, your bumper drags  

You think "displacement" is something that happens to homeless people  

Yugo's give you a run for the money  

You continuously run red lights because they are invisible thru your red window tint  

15's are considered HUGE rims  

You can reach back and defrost the rear window by hand  

You will race anyone, anytime, and already know that you will lose  

You think Moby is one of the greatest composers of our time  

You spend all your money pimping it out because spending money to make it faster is a waste  

Your little sister is the only one impressed with your car  

When you win a race, you don't really win, it's just that the other guy felt soooo sorry for you  

You think your mom's Corolla is fast  

The cross section of your exhaust tip is bigger than the contact patch of your tires  

Your aftermarket tach is bigger than your fist  

You bought the big ass tach to try to scare off the fast cars  

But all it does is let people know how hard you have to push it to exceed the legal speed limit  

You rev on school busses  

Hell, you rev on people in electric wheelchairs  

You buy and install custom rims a pair at a time  

YOU REALIZE THAT ALL OF THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND YOU STILL THINK YOU'RE COOL!!!  

You've entered a 12 step program called "How to come to terms with your limitations"  

The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up  

You really want to kick my ass right now  

You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and don't know what they're for  

You cut 2" holes in your rear bumper and DO know what they're for  

You go to the auto paint store and pick out the most retina burning color you can find  

You buy race gas to drop you from 17.02 to 16.9 in the quarter, and then tell all your friends how fast you went  

You add a second battery to power all the neon, and the mini disco ball  

You add a wing on TOP of your car, 'cause wagons need down force too  

You've ever painted bare, raw fiberglass black and said "Look! It's just like carbon fiber!"  

You get pimped out props from the mini truck crowd  

You still only get dates from high school girls  

You actually own a pair of light up glasses from Checker Auto  

When you install your super phat wing, you put the pointy ends up  

You purchase and install a body kit, one piece at a time  

You saw the "Rice Boy" magazine in the back of Sport Compact, and inquired about a subscription  

Your brother is pissed cause you stole the muffler off his dirt bike (it was a direct fit!)  

Your dad is worried cause you bought a car with less displacement than his lawnmower

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 11:36:57 pm »
Hahaha to the above


Ricer is a term used to describe if a compact car has undergone a level of modification.  Domestics like the Focus and Turbo Neon can fall into this category as they can be "riced out".  It is a complimentary term among people in the culture.  Example; "How riced is it?" one potential buyer may ask a seller over the phone.

The term "japanese" is a negative slang against a particular nationality with a direct throw back to World War 2 and all it's bad ass consequences.

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 11:38:26 pm »
Forget it...Hondasalesguy is just pissed he got taken to the dumpster when he negatively commented on immigrants.  He's trolling....

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 11:42:23 pm »
Agree with what Md said.

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 11:53:46 pm »
I would agree with Mdx and personally have no problem with the term "ricer" as applied to autos.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2005, 12:23:18 am »
Same for me also. This is not a term of rudeness to our friends from Japan or any nation at all. This term has been around for years and has stuck. Initial has in down very well. I give a 5 for his explanations on it.

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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 01:37:13 am »
I dont have much experience with 'ricer', though always believed that an EVO or STI would be considered a ricer. Also thought that the term must have been created by people with disdain for low displacement engines that need to be 'squeezed' to extract power.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 01:59:27 am »
So, it's okay to call a Japanese made car a ricer, but it's not okay to call a Japanese person a ricer?  That doesn't make sense to me.  In my book, both usages are wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2005, 02:32:42 am »


Then I guess I better stop calling loaner cars "sluts" as some people in question may get offended.

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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 04:25:01 am »
I think all this Political correctness is crap. You don't know a persons motives when they use a particular term.  
You best be sure that a persons comments are meant to be racist or hateful before condemning them.
I find alot of questionable terms on forums is due to ignorance and not mean spiritedness. You must then educate not attack.

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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2005, 08:28:18 am »
initial d why don't you educate me what the initials R.I.C.E. stand for, i obviously missed the post where it was explained

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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2005, 08:36:02 am »
i am in the car business but i am not close to the tuner car culture so i honestly wanted to know what the deal was with the ricer term. our dealership doesn't do any radical mods so i don't see any of this first hand. seems that the people who know are saying it is actually a friendly and complimentary term. sounds strange to me but you guys should know.

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2005, 09:07:16 am »
Ricer is not an ethnic slur in any way. It's an ironic reference to the whole sport-compact, loud exhaust, deafening stereo, fake performance culture. The icon of the cult is the Civic, the orginal "rice burner", which of course is a reference to the car's Asian origins. But a Riceboy is not necessarily Asian. In fact, most are not. He's just a kid with a ridiculous car.

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2005, 11:55:41 am »
Haha, funny site! Loved the RX-7 with the huge wing!
http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=toprated&cat=0&pos=20
Why would someone do that on such a curvy car?

And this is a classic!
http://www.laughatrice.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=toprated&cat=0&pos=1


But this RSX actually looks pretty classy:
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2005, 12:17:39 pm »
typical typical typical...

but trend seems changed...

1) supercharger is prefered over turbo
2) N-type exhaust (which gives you high torque but give up low-mid torque and hell noisy) is outdated... illegal too
3) GT-wings? screw that

use it as guideline and create a second generation RICER!

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2005, 01:11:04 pm »
Well according to Initial D's (hilarious) list above, I'm a ricer too:

"Your four cylinder has a dual exhaust system installed"

... but I don't take offense.  I laughed at Audi and Acura (TSX) for doing this silliness years ago.  

I think my favourite from the list was this one though:

"The bill of your hat gets caught when you roll the window up"

I always used to think that a good swift kick to the side of the head would straighten out those too-cool-to-wear-it-straight cap-wearers.  :-)