Author Topic: Interesting point of view (from the other side) (Read 4182 times)

wing · « **on:** December 16, 2004, 04:41:04 pm »

So I was talking to a co-working today about cars and his preferences came up. Really ummmmm interesting point of view.

He owns a VW but dislikes the interior but loves the exterior. He hates the steering (too stiff).

He than said he LOVED american cars because the interiors were the BEST and that the steering was so easy, he hates having to use more than 1 finger to steer.

I called him a LAZY driver haha. Interesting view though. Personally I dislike lazy steering and American made dashes are horrible.

Drivesideways · « **Reply #1 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:47:36 pm »

And then did his head spin completely around on his shoulders, speaking in tongues, spewing pea soup, with eyes blazing fire-red? He is the anti-driver.

Mdxtasy · « **Reply #2 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:49:49 pm »

Overboosted steering is good thing if you don't want to strain your arm muscles. I am willing to bet he's not much of an enthusiast nor a driver's driver.

Car takes body from point a to point b.

Don't think many will agree with him on this site....I like it stiff.

wing · « **Reply #3 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:52:08 pm »

Like I said "Other Side" IE the none enthusiast side.

ovr50 · « **Reply #4 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:53:01 pm »

I'm not saying a darn thing about the rest of us like it, say for example, Bridge.....

inco · « **Reply #5 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:55:19 pm »

Take him for a ride in your car JB and make him appreciate control as well as a few other points when he is hanging on for dear life.

And if you really want to clue him in - use the S2K on a nice day.

ovr50 · « **Reply #6 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:55:34 pm »

Unfortunately, there are a lot of ppl out there like Jb's co-worker. They just view it as basic transportation and the easier the better. End of story, they just don't care.

Mdxtasy · « **Reply #7 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:57:33 pm »

Yeah James...show em how stiff bananarama is.

Drivesideways · « **Reply #8 on:** December 16, 2004, 04:59:16 pm »

And there are clearly more of them out there than there are of us. Hence the manual transmission's presence on the endangered species list.

si · « **Reply #9 on:** December 16, 2004, 11:15:12 pm »

Hahhhhhhhhhaaa I've driven some cars before at the dealership (like the RL was it?) that the steering is SO FREAKING OVERPOWERED!!! that if you give it a good spin to one direction and let go, the momentum of the wheel alone will make it continue spinning under power.

Now that's overpowered!

I do like to feel the bumps in the road through the wheel; I like to know exactly the difference between my steeringwheel imput and the car's actual output.

ghost · « **Reply #10 on:** December 17, 2004, 09:09:06 am »

reminds me when the e46 3-series came out. It's steering is way overboosted. Owners complained and bmw fixed it in the later models.
Overboosted steering wheels encourages lazy drivers. Hence you see lots of one-arm steerers at parking lots.

Roadrunner · « **Reply #11 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:17:58 pm »

I'm curious guys. How many of you young drivers have ACTUALLY driven a vehicle WITHOUT power assist steering? Raise your hands.

Mdxtasy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:24:34 pm »

Right here. 1988 Toyota MR2 Supercharged. With a 270mm Momo steering wheel. Try to parallel that sucker.

Giant Dwarf · « **Reply #13 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:28:37 pm »

Right here too. 1985 Toyota Corolla. Not so bad -- plus, it used to be my grandma's car... so if she can do it, any of us wimps should be able to too.

Shnak · « **Reply #14 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:29:34 pm »

My dad's 1995 Ford Ranger didn't have power steering. For some reason, I prefer a truck WITHOUT power steering. I guess those aren't available anymore though...

Snowman · « **Reply #15 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:42:51 pm »

I drive one everyday…..1994 Toyota Tercel.

wing · « **Reply #16 on:** December 17, 2004, 01:58:26 pm »

Only time I drove a car without was in my driving school, it was a geo metro, what a shocker trying to park it.

si · « **Reply #17 on:** December 17, 2004, 02:27:33 pm »

I've driven many a cars with and without power steering. Some days at the dealership I'd drive well over 20 cars. - everything from an NSX to some industrial utility-vans.

S60 · « **Reply #18 on:** December 17, 2004, 02:32:24 pm »

Good post Jamesbe, the Big 3 have to be very careful with issue(North American culture).

All the car rags are full of critics bashing the
American car makers, which is what the buying public reads, but at the same time as many have posted, 80% of the customers, prefer the built in North American culture in their daily driver.
EG:soft, comfy, simple, and easy to drive cars.

Quite a few of the new offerings from the Big 3 are starting to tighten up the suspensions, more rigid bodys,more high tech gizmos, etc, which might alienate the typical North American customer.

To us 20% it might look like finally the American car makers are going to get it right, but are they.

barrie1 · « **Reply #19 on:** December 17, 2004, 02:50:03 pm »

I have probably had 50 cars without power anything including a 1961 Impala Convertible with the 409 in it. Talk about heavy steering to park with it, especially with Wide track Tiger Paws on it. Must have weighed 10 Tons to the feel of it. I do like the posi-ratio power steering in my Seville tho as it is nice with very good road feel.

Author Topic: Interesting point of view (from the other side) (Read 4182 times)

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