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« on: December 07, 2004, 11:17:42 pm »
Here we go:

The 2005 category winners are:  

*   Best New Economy Car: Kia Spectra Sedan LX  
*   Best New Family Car: Mazda6 Sport  
*   Best New Luxury Car: Chrysler 300 C  
*   Best New Sport Utility Vehicle: BMW X3 3.0i  
*   Best New Crossover: Hyundai Tucson  
*   Best New Sport Compact: Volvo S40  
*   Best New Sports / Performance Car: Ford Mustang  
*   Best New Minivan: Honda Odyssey  
*   Best New Station Wagon: Mazda6 Sport Wagon  
*   Best New Pick-up: Toyota Tacoma  
*   Best New Convertible: Mercedes-Benz SLK 350  
*   Best New Alternative Power: Honda Accord Hybrid

Agree? Disagree?

Source: CD News
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2004, 11:30:08 pm »
I have surprisingly little to quibble with on the list. I assume the Toyota Prius won in 2004 for Best Alternative Power (otherwise I'd question the Honda call). And I'm not sure about the KIA Spectra for Best Economy? A pretty good list tho overall.
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2004, 11:52:26 pm »
I will diagree on a few of them, I like the Mustange but to me the new Vette should have won. I like the new Seville better then the 300C but these are my personal picks.
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2004, 11:57:52 pm »
Woohooo....
All 3 versions of Mazda6's won.
(family sedan for last year and twice this year)  
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« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2004, 12:40:22 am »
I think thats a pretty good list overall.
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« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2004, 12:47:12 am »
I think the thing w the Mustang vs C6 Corvette is that the Mustang is the first all new Mustang in decades whereas (as much as I really like the Corvette) the C6 is an upgrade/improvement on the C5 and not an all new car like the Stang. I suspect that's why it was picked over the C6. Both would be welcome in my garage !! Or even one of them..
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« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2004, 12:56:19 am »
I'd think a Boxster and 911 would have been considered in the convertible and sports car category.  I'd also think the SRX would have been in the running for crossover or SUV category.  Luxury car would have probably included the 5 series and possibly the Cadillac STS.  

Here's a question...since when was the Mazda 6 new for 2005?  
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« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2004, 01:14:17 am »
Since they were declared late 2004 additions that qualified for 2005.
They weren't availabe when they were doing the 2004 awards. (only the sedan was available)

I've read the somewhere, cant find where.
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« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2004, 05:56:48 am »
I was at Durham Kia the other day and was very impressed with the new Spectra...very nice car inside and out...interior quality is just as good as Japanese. Overall, the Spectra offers a great package for the money.
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« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2004, 08:11:57 am »
agreed with the results, the only thing i didnt understand is what the ugly X3 is doing in that list.
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« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2004, 08:40:24 am »
I agree with most on the list….The Tucson is a Crossover from what. The Tucson is a small ute not a half-breed. They need to expand a few categories, especially in the crowded SUV market. Mustang for best sports coupe but the Corvette should be best sports car.

I don’t know MD…the MB SLK 350 is hot. Finally it has the power and handling to match the styling. It makes the Boxster look like a Toyota.

Mazda is king of the affordable family fun cars…..can’t wait to see the MPS 6.
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« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2004, 09:50:07 am »
Is this AJAC?
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« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2004, 10:12:56 am »
I agree with the list for the most part...
Great for Kia & Hyundai - like Snowman I question the Tuscun being a crossover/half breed..
Once again we have the Japanese;
Mazda with the other 2 6's way to go Mazda.  
Honda easy walk in the park for the Van as both Nissan & Toyota came out the year early. Alternative Power; Hmmm you would have thought maybe give it to Ford for the Escape Hybrid - for being the 1st Sport Ut to use this alternative power in a Sport Ut.(Just an idea)
Toyota no matter what some have said with regards to seating they make a great truck that just goes & goes & goes..
Then from the UK;
Volvo - S40 - love that car very sweet...
BMW agree with Multi - should also get the Ugly award..
MB - agree with Snowman I'd pick it over the Boxster, sorry MD..
Then we come to the Big 3
Chrysler 300 C - agree  
Ford Mustang - got to agree
GM - Nada zipo nothing...I guess there's always next year, sorry Barrie!
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« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2004, 10:51:29 am »
 http://www.ajac.ca/english/?lang=1
AJAC….all the people the write about cars in this country….where have you been Ghost?
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« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2004, 10:54:27 am »
The MB is nice....but I'm not a big fan of the snout.  It is a vast improvement over the shopping cart they offered before and deserves a nomination.  Atleast it's got a stick now.
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« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2004, 10:54:53 am »
I disagree only with the X3
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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2004, 11:51:37 am »
Hey, it could be Car & Driver.
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« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2004, 11:52:51 am »
I forgot to add my 2 cents to the list in my original post.

I mostly agree, like the majority, however I'd say that they SRX deserves a spot on the list and the Tucson is questionable as well. They should really expand these categegories or at least word them differently to help make the choices clearer.

I thought the X3 has been out for a while and the reviews that I have read were fairly mixed. Most were unfavourable. Then again, I should take my own advice and not base an opinion of a vehicle purely on reviews.
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« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2004, 12:03:35 pm »

Looking at the list of contenders (with winner listed first):
ECONOMY CAR:  
Kia Spectra Sedan LX
Chevrolet/Pontiac Pursuit  
Hyundai Accent 5-Door  
Smart Coupe and Cabriolet  

FAMILY CAR  
Mazda6 Sport  
Buick Allure  
Ford Five Hundred  
Pontiac G6  
Subaru Legacy  

LUXURY CAR  
Chrysler 300C
Acura RL  
Cadillac STS  
Infiniti G35X  
Kia Amanti  
Volkswagen Phaeton  

SPORT UTILITY VEHICLE  
BMW X3 3.0i  
Infiniti QX 56  
Jeep Grand Cherokee  
Land Rover LR3  
Lexus GX 470  
Nissan Pathfinder  

CROSSOVER  
Hyundai Tucson
Chevrolet Equinox  
Ford Freestyle SEL  
Nissan X-Trail  
Subaru Outback  

SPORTS COMPACT  
Volvo S40
Ford Focus ST  
Kia Spectra5 Pkg. 1  
Mazdaspeed MX-5 Miata  
Saab 9-2X  
Saturn ION Red Line  
Toyota Corolla XRS  

SPORTS / PERFORMANCE CAR  
Ford Mustang Coupe  
BMW 645Ci Coupe  
Cadillac CTS-V  
Chevrolet Corvette  
Chrysler Crossfire SRT-6 Roadster  
Mercedes C55 AMG  

MINIVAN  
Honda Odyssey
Dodge Caravan  
Saturn Relay/Buick Terraza  

STATION WAGON  
Mazda6 SportWagon  
Chevrolet Malibu Maxx  
Chevrolet Optra Wagon  
Dodge Magnum RT  
Jaguar X-Type Wagon  
Subaru Legacy  
Volvo V50  

PICK-UP
Toyota Tacoma  
Dodge Dakota  
Ford F-250 Super Duty  
Nissan Frontier  

CONVERTIBLE  
Mercedes SLK350
Audi S4 Cabriolet  
Chevrolet Corvette  
Chrysler PT Touring Convertible  
MINI Cooper S Convertible  
Saab 9-3  
Toyota Solara  

ALTERNATIVE POWER  
Honda Accord Hybrid  
Chevrolet Silverado/GMC Sierra  
Ford Escape Hybrid  
Jeep Liberty Diesel  
Mercedes-Benz E320 CDI

Overall Canadian Car of the Year Finalists:  
Ford Mustang Coupe  
Chrysler 300C  
Honda Accord Hybrid  
 
Overall Canadian Truck of the Year Finalists:  
Honda Odyssey  
Jeep Grand Cherokee  
Toyota Tacoma  

http://www.ajac.ca/english/ccoty/vote_results.asp?lang=1 has the scoring results. Very interesting.

Some personal observations:
- Kia Spectra: I know the Spectra is a very good effort, and a very quiet, powerful, and capable car. It's just I see the Cobalt/Pursuit as such a departure for GM and the domestic small car industry that I was hoping GM would take it. That said, I'm sure they'll sell well and Kia could use the spot light more, and should be congratulated for the standard side curtain airbags (which I'm sure was the clincher for it). Smart is ultra efficient, but just wouldn't score well, and is for a certain type of buyer. Think it should be mentioned for something though.  
- Somewhat surprised the Mazda6's took both categories. In Family Sedan, it's certainly not the largest or most comfy car (Five Hundred probably takes this, with Allure close) but it trounces Legacy for value (if not, the Leg probably would have stolen it. It came close). In the Wagon category the Mazda was probably the best blending of virtues, but I'm still surprised - especially over the Magnum, which actually was behind Legacy Wagon and V50 in votes.  
- In Lux Car, 300C makes sense. RL is too pricey and small. Phaeton is an unbelievably detailed machine, but is ultra-luxury, and can't compete on value. STS is nice, but not enough.
- BMW X3 (as mentioned) sticks out the most for me on the list. It's smallish, with a harsh ride, and I really don't see it as the best at anything - not even handling. In the vehicles nominated (which I agree should have included the SRX, or others), even I would have chosen the Grand Cherokee (yes, you heard that right Multi ;). LR3 is winning accolades, but I don't know enough about it, or pricing in Canada.
- Glad to see Tucson win its category (tho I love the Canada-only X-Trail and think the Freestyle is a great effort).
- S40 will probably raise some eyebrows because it's not so overtly sporting but is very deserving. S60, didn't realize the S40i with the 168hp engine could shoot to 60mph as fast as it does.
- Mustang hands down. What a car! Corvette is an evolution, this is more a revolution. Well, not quite, but close. CTS-V is unique and should have scored higher (ugly dash or not).  
- Odyssey. Who would argue? I would also select Tacoma too.
- Convertible is a tough one, as that's quite the spread of product. Could have gone any way. To be honest, as outlandish as it sounds I might of actually chosen the PT Cruiser because it seats 4 (or 5?) comfortably, can be had with the turbo (albeit, still isn't fast), and I heard the top itself is a quiet, quality piece. But not complaining with the SLK, except that I can't fit into the thing.
- Besides the X3, the Accord Hybrid sticks out again here, as the Escape Hybrid (at less cost, with 4X4) will probably make the biggest splash of them all. Personally like the Benz CDI, but I knew that wasn't going to be category winner.

One question: How can the Jeep Grand Cherokee qualify to be truck of the year when it didn't win its segment? My understanding under AJAC was that the vehicle had to win in it's category in order to become Car or Truck of the Year. I suppose not, or it's a typo.

Long post. Got carried away. Sorry.

(Message edited by sirAQUAMAN64 on December 08, 2004)
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« Reply #19 on: December 08, 2004, 12:04:55 pm »
Why would car and driver give CANADIAN car of the year? They're American. THey have their "10 Best awards"
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