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Strange (rad?) smell when I drive with the window open
« on: November 16, 2004, 11:45:39 pm »
Hi, I'm new here - hope someone can help me.
I just bought a 95 civic LX automatic (100k). When I drive with the window open I smell this weird smell. The closest I can compare it to ids the smell of the rad when I open it although I could be wrong. I know the rad was already changed in this car which seemed odd to me. what could this smell be - it irritates me!

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« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2004, 12:12:26 am »
Welcome to the forum Duane.
If it smells like anti-freeze it probably is. Check all the hoses and engine gaskets for coolant leaks. You could have a slight leak somewhere close to the front and when the fan kicks in the smell reaches you. You are sure the coolant smell isn't coming form the heater core? Is the cap on the coolant overflow container(reservoir)? Any leak from the container or the coolant return (to rad) hose? Perhaps a leak in a transmission coolant line from the rad to the trans?

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2004, 12:15:22 am »
Welcome Duane to the Forum, how long ago was the rad changed in this car. If recent then then clean the engine off as some was spilled. Watch for signs of the rad going down, examine all of your hoses and as much of the cooling system you can see including the heater core. Sounds like you have anti-freeze from another vehicle on the front of your car or its your car.  

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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2004, 09:15:20 am »
I'd start with what the RR has mentioned.  Get a second opinion on the smell as it may not be what you think it is.  If you are leaking or burning coolant you will notice a drop in the level.  This would be a good time to pull out the overflow catch tank and give it a good exterior cleaning as well as inspecting the componets that make up the cooling circle of life. Get it?  You may also try placing a big piece of cardboard under the car when you return home to catch any drips that may help you get to the bottom of this.  If you just got this car you may not be used to the smells it generates either.  Is the rad clean or covered with bugs?  Engine leaks and dirt can cause a smell.  Pop the hood after you notice the smell and take a quick sniff.  Run the car outside with the hood up and watch it go thru a few cycles with the rad fan to make sure the basics are working.  Temp guage normal?  
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2004, 04:01:35 pm »
I don't know if I'm supposed to reply with a thanks but I am anyways. I appreciate the feedback. I'm going to do the suggested tests. What is the heater core? The wierd thing about this is the smell only arrives when I open the window. I also think it is worse when I have the floor vents open. After I check all the hoses and for leaks I can spray wash the motor with a high pressure car wash sprayer? Do I need to have the motor running when I spray? Do I have to avoid certain areas under the hood? Are there any dangers or concerns about spraying down my motor. I used to do it with a 2001 civic I had before but I felt more at ease as there were no spark plugs . . .

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« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2004, 04:21:16 pm »
Duane, Mom and Dad were right.  "Pleases" and "Thank-yous" are always good.  RR and Barrie (and probably anyone else but me) will have good answers to your follow-up questions.

BTW the sparkplug-less Civic must have been a blast to drive, eh?
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« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2004, 05:50:28 pm »
yeah whatever drivingsideways! I meant to say that there were no spark plug cables - Ok wise guy?

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« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2004, 06:22:31 pm »
Duane, If the engine/compartment is dirty; Ie.grease/dirt/oil, Spray the area with a grease remover (aka. 'Gunk' from Cdn. Tire) or something similar first and let it sit for 5 minutes so it gets a chance to loosen the muck.

When pressure washing or steam cleaning DO NOT have the engine running. There is always the hazard of having water sucked up through the air intake and into the engine.
Don't spray water directly at the alternator or the fuse/relay box. You can (if you wish) cover these components with a plastic bag for the wash period, just remember to remove them before you re-start the engine.
Everything else, feel free to blast away at, using common sense of course. If in doubt, stay away from it. NOTE* after washing, check to ensure ALL the vacuum hoses, spark plug wires, etc. haven't been removed/loosened during the cleaning process.
When finished washing down, dry off the wiring with a dry towel/rag. Ideally, would be to use an air pressure nozzle and blow the entire engine/compartment dry.
Even so, there will be a drip-dry period after this. So let the car sit overnight and do a complete leak check the next day. Warm the engine up to the full operating temperature then shut the key OFF. You don't want the fan to start as the moving air will spread any leak to a different location and perhaps causing you to think THAT is where the leak is.
If you have an electric cooling fan be wary of getting any part of you too close to it as it can start at ANY time (UNLESS you disconnect the battery). You don't need to do that for the leak check.
The main thing is to make sure everything is dry before you start hunting for the coolant leak. You don't want to be under the engine checking for bad hoses or loose clamps and have water dripping on your face.
If you don't locate any coolant leaks anywhere (including the rad itself AND the drain valve at the bottom) with the engine shut off, Start the engine and look everything over again while the coolant is under more pressure and is circulating.
Check around the RAD cap. Is the cap on tight? If not, perhaps the gasket is worn and you need a NEW cap.
The heater core looks like the radiator core (the section which is all fins). Sometimes these leak causing a film to form on the inside of the windshield when the defroster is turned on. Other times the coolant will leak down the firewall and soak the carpet (on the passenger side).
At any rate, check the heater hoses where they connect at the firewall (passenger side, underhood).
If the heater core is leaking be prepared for a large labor intensive bill as the dash has to be removed to gain access. UNLESS your CIVIC has the heater core on the engine compartment side. (I doubt it) Have fun.
I'm sure Barrie will have some good ideas for you.
Duane, it's been my experience when having to repair something is to replace the old with NEW not used(?). Used is ALWAYS doubtful.

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« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2004, 08:37:40 pm »
You said that you "think" it smells like coolant.  Have you gotten a second opinion yet as it may very well be something else.?

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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2004, 10:55:15 pm »
your right ericthejet! I will go see my mechanic tomorrow and get him to confirm that.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2004, 11:38:34 pm »
This young man has been looked after with very good advice from the getgo. Not much for me to add. Well Done Folks.

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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2004, 02:05:27 pm »
Yeh, I just wonder which one of us is right? I just hope Duane posts back with the results.

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2004, 10:46:42 pm »
I think we're all right on this one.  

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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2004, 08:14:17 am »
Any news here?

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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2004, 02:01:09 pm »
Still waiting for the poster to return and let us know what has happened.

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« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2004, 05:14:16 pm »
Well, the mechanic just informed me that the rad is TOAST (I was wrong the rad had not been changed before - just the thermostat and the gasket).
OK so, he quoted me about $200 for the rad and $270 for the work - sound good? I'm P*ssed!! Just bought the damn car and asked the owner about the smell and she said it was nothing f**k!! Thanks for all your help folks-your answers were complete and generous.

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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2004, 05:15:41 pm »
sorry I mean 370 for the labour plus $200 for the rad $570 with tax included - too much?

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2004, 05:53:02 pm »
It's too bad people have to learn the hard way, but it's always very wise to have any used car purchase checked over by a mechanic you trust before you part with your cash. Even if you spend a few bucks on mechanics fees, it's worth it to avoid this very kind of situation. One should never take private seller's comment's at face value. Tough luck, Duane, but it's a lesson learned.  
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« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2004, 06:38:11 pm »
If you smell something...it's never "just nothing".  Lesson learned.  That's why the used car contract always has "AS IS" in it.  On the other hand, sellers cannot intentionally mislead you either....

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« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2004, 08:18:13 pm »
sounds good to me....
big ammount of money but at least the lesson is learned!!