I got my 'Ody last week and installed a set of Blizzak WS-50 on OEM steel wheels, got the package from Tirerack. They shipped some flimsy black open ended lug nuts with the package so I tried the alloy lug nuts, they fit perfectly. They are long enough; you can screw them all the way in to make contact with the hub, they have the proper rounded edge, the only thing is the steel washer being loose but they don't make any noise. So far I like the Blizzaks, they are very good on snow, they do "sing" a little on wet pavement and are much better than I expected on dry roads after reading many bad (dry) reviews. The van is very quiet and the added tire noise is hardly noticeable.