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Just in case you're 911 turbo shopping...
« on: September 05, 2004, 04:00:07 am »
Found my file for the 911 this evening while sorting through some stuff in my desk.  In case anyone is interested...

...here is two years of records.

For calender year 1995:

25,000km service: (MUST be done EVERY 25K, or risk burning valves and ruining the top end which could be a $15,000 bill in a hurry, and might be $25,000 if you go far enough) includes removal of engine for valve adjustment and ALL fluids and filters replaced and plugs.  Labour (at my indie) flat rate for 25K service = $1099  Parts (including oil/filter/plugs) = $720  Total with GST/shop supplies: $2021

Brakes were done that spring.  On the turbo, you must replace the discs when replacing pads, as the discs are prone to cracking and breaking around the drilling holes.  Front discs 2 x $328.50 = $657  Rear Discs 2 x $323.77 = $647.55  Front Pad Set $124.26  Rear Pad Set $124.26  Labour $850  Total Parts $1553.07  Total with shop/GST = $1693.88

New Clutch: Clutch "Kit" $2049.28  Labour $770.00 Total with tax: $3048.72

Replace Primary and Secondary Fuel Pumps : Primary Pump: $424.47  Secondary Pump: $703.23  Labour $550 Total (all incl) = $1840.40

Three additional minor services including oil/filter @$330 each = $990.

For 1995, maintenance and repairs (not including gas/tires/or insurance) was $9594.00

For Calander Year 1996:

25K Service: $2105.00

Air Conditioning Major Service: Evaporator with expansion valve: $814.40  Receiver Drier: $224.00 Labour $480.00  Total with taxes: $1649.30  Labour should have been $1100, but was reduced due to misdiagnosis.

Replace Aux Fan Assembly: Fan 1 $669.90 Labour $225.00 Total with taxes: $957.55

Replace Fuel Lines: 2 x $604.77 = $1209.54 Labour $550.00 Total with tax: $1898.75

2 x minor services @ $310.00 = $620.00

Total for 1996 NOT including tires, gas, or insurance = $7230.60

Total for 1995 and 1996 = $16,824.60
Insurance for 1995: $3150
Insurance for 1996: $3230
Gasoline for 1995: $1755
Gasoline for 1996: $1650
Tires in 1995: $1227.00
Tires in 1996: $1318.00 (Yes, it used a set every 22-25K)

Total non-repairs/maintainance items: $12,330

Total running costs for 1995 and 1996: $29,154.60 or $1214.77 per month.  For the 48,000km's I drove those two years (not a garage queen!) it was $0.607 per kilometer.

Talking to other owners, $1.00-$1.20 is pretty typical, so my rate was less thanks to driving it.

So, for potential 911 turbo owners, there is a typical running cost for operating one.  Expensive?  Yup.  But, consider that running a 308 or 328 Ferrari runs 2-3x that, or more, it's cheap for the kind of car it is.  Also, the car is very durable with the engine and transmission showing no signs of wear at all.  Drive the car hard, and figure replacing brakes often, and as you can see, that adds up fast.  The turbo's special discs provide unreal stopping, but wear quickly and must be replaced every brake job.  The new ceramic brakes are tres expensive up front, but for someone that drives the car hard (track use too) they would save money in the long run.

Normal 911 parts are not much less, but the labour rates are, as the engine can remain in the car for most work, unlike the turbo.  Also, brakes last longer.  An 87-94 Turbo is a BAD buy anyway.  For the same money you can get a nice 993 C2 or C4 that makes almost as much power and costs less to run.

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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2004, 09:01:06 am »
A friend of mine in Ottawa and his new Project. Picture taken this Spring. It's back on the road now and he's having fun.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2004, 09:05:04 am »
Hollee….A used C5 Z-06 would be a far better. It’s no Porsche but you could smile as you fly past.…..trade the operating cost for capital and you could get a C6.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2004, 08:35:52 pm »
I just want a regular 911...no boost required.  Of course Johngen puts some numbers to the mystery of running costs.  My plan is to pay for the 911 upfront and without loans.  That way, I won't have to pay for maintenance and monthly payments....now where did I put those magic money seeds?  I'm shooting for a mid 90's C2 or C4.  I just finished shovelling 2 cubic yards of pea gravel and built steps down to my backyard.....wish I had that 911 to unwind with.